Author Topic: Bill Cosby to be released (Read 1952 times)

Angel Eyes · « **on:** June 30, 2021, 01:11:24 PM »

His sexual assault conviction was overturned by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/bill-cosby-to-be-released-from-prison-after-pennsylvania-court-overturns-sex-assault-conviction/

Not many details yet.

MillCreek · « **Reply #1 on:** June 30, 2021, 01:43:27 PM »

Spending money on lawyers paid off.

WLJ · « **Reply #2 on:** June 30, 2021, 02:11:42 PM »

griz · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2021, 02:24:28 PM »

My understanding is a prosecutor told him there would be no criminal charges if he agreed to testify in a civil suit against him. He did, and that testimony was used in his criminal trial. So the case was thrown out.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2021, 03:16:47 PM »

Not saying he isn't a perv and a predator but I've always been a little skeptical about the timing of all the allegations and his prosecution.
None of it started until he started criticizing "ghetto culture", generational welfare and the epidemic of absent black fathers.
Once he left the plantation he was fair game.

WLJ · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2021, 03:43:53 PM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on June 30, 2021, 03:16:47 PM

Not saying he isn't a perv and a predator but I've always been a little skeptical about the timing of all the allegations and his prosecution.
None of it started until he started criticizing "ghetto culture", generational welfare and the epidemic of absent black fathers.
Once he left the plantation he was fair game.

Quite a few people brought this up at the time. Libs will keep the wagons circled around someone until they start talking off script which is far far worse in their minds than any crimes they were committing.

BobR · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2021, 04:13:53 PM »

Quote from: griz on June 30, 2021, 02:24:28 PM

My understanding is a prosecutor told him there would be no criminal charges if he agreed to testify in a civil suit against him. He did, and that testimony was used in his criminal trial. So the case was thrown out.

That's what I read. The County Prosecutor told him things he said in the deposition in a civil trial would not be used for criminal prosecution. A new County Prosecutor came onboard and violated that agreement. The PA Supreme Court said he should have never been prosecuted and released him and said he can't be tried again on those charges.

He is a scum bag but violating his constitutional rights by using his statements to criminally charge him after say they wouldn't is just wrong.

I wonder how long it will be before he sues Montgomery County PA, an hour or so?

bob

Ben · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2021, 04:25:50 PM »

Quote from: BobR on June 30, 2021, 04:13:53 PM

That's what I read. The County Prosecutor told him things he said in the deposition in a civil trial would not be used for criminal prosecution. A new County Prosecutor came onboard and violated that agreement. The PA Supreme Court said he should have never been prosecuted and released him and said he can't be tried again on those charges.

He is a scum bag but violating his constitutional rights by using his statements to criminally charge him after say they wouldn't is just wrong.

I wonder how long it will be before he sues Montgomery County PA, an hour or so?

bob

This is how I look at it.

Too many of these gov prosecutors want to go woke, screw the constitution and rights to a fair trial. This is also why I believe Chauvin will likely be free at some point as well.

I'm fine with guilty people going free under circumstances like this.

K Frame · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2021, 04:31:48 PM »

"″[Cosby] was found guilty by a jury and now goes free on a procedural issue that is irrelevant to the facts of the crime,” District Attorney Kevin Steele"

OK... Cosby is scum, but what transpired is FAR more than just a "procedure issue."

HankB · « **Reply #9 on:** June 30, 2021, 04:38:14 PM »

The county prosecutor who violated the original agreement ought to serve the same length of time behind bars - under the same conditions - as Cosby did.

just Warren · « **Reply #10 on:** June 30, 2021, 05:49:19 PM »

Why did it take this long to come out?

Why didn't his defense raise this at trial and have it be inadmissible then?

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #11 on:** June 30, 2021, 06:00:50 PM »

I regard this as Cosby getting off on a technicality. It's a BIG technicality, and (unfortunately) it is the right call from a legal perspective, but it doesn't mean that he's not a rapist.

As for why his lawyers didn't raise this before -- obviously, he hired the wrong lawyers. Will Shakespeare had it right: "First, kill all the lawyers."

zxcvbob · « **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2021, 06:37:10 PM »

Quote from: just Warren on June 30, 2021, 05:49:19 PM

Why did it take this long to come out?

Why didn't his defense raise this at trial and have it be inadmissible then?

I think they did and the judge ruled against them.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2021, 06:56:08 PM »

Did the prior deposition testimony play a factor in the case against him?

Pb · « **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2021, 10:23:44 PM »

What about the rights of his victims?

Because a prosecutor screwed up, he goes free.

230RN · « **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2021, 10:41:04 PM »

WLJ REMARKED,

"Quite a few people brought this up at the time. Libs will keep the wagons circled around someone until they start talking off script which is far far worse in their minds than any crimes they were committing."

Quoted for truth.

HankB said,

"The county prosecutor who violated the original agreement ought to serve the same length of time behind bars - under the same conditions - as Cosby did."

Quoted for truth.

" ' [Cosby] was found guilty by a jury and now goes free on a procedural issue that is irrelevant to the facts of the crime,' District Attorney Kevin Steele said."

I thought you legally expert prosecutor guys were aware of that possibility and were supposed to take care that no such procedural issues occur. You get pissantly specific and technical and by the book when it suits you, but boy, let a guy get off "on a technicality" and you're all butt hurt.

Boo-effing-hoo.

Pb asked,

"What about the rights of his victims?

Because a prosecutor screwed up, he goes free."

You're confusing Justice with the Legal System.

Terry, 230RN

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2021, 10:46:49 PM »

When WE screw up, it's a horrific crime. When the prosecutor screws up, it's a "technicality."

Bogie · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2021, 10:51:17 PM »

He was the guy who had the disco biscuits.

TANSTAAFL

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2021, 11:11:14 PM »

kgbsquirrel · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2021, 12:24:34 AM »

Quote from: Angel Eyes on June 30, 2021, 11:11:14 PM

Oof, and eww..

K Frame · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2021, 07:00:52 AM »

The prosecutor didn't screw up.

That prosecutor's actions are in the same league as those of the DA who went after the Duke University lacrosse players some years ago.

French G. · « **Reply #21 on:** July 01, 2021, 09:56:14 AM »

I hope it revives #metoo because a few prominent people with more credible allegations have ducked the deal. Burn all the witches this time, I love it when they eat themselves

Pb · « **Reply #22 on:** July 01, 2021, 10:13:59 AM »

Quote from: K Frame on July 01, 2021, 07:00:52 AM

The prosecutor didn't screw up.

That prosecutor's actions are in the same league as those of the DA who went after the Duke University lacrosse players some years ago.

The lacrosse players were innocent. Cosby is probably guilty.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #23 on:** July 01, 2021, 10:42:06 AM »

Quote from: Pb on July 01, 2021, 10:13:59 AM

The lacrosse players were innocent. Cosby is probably guilty.

True. Nonetheless, when the government makes a deal, the government should honor the deal. If the government can't live with the consequences that brings with it, then they shouldn't agree to the deal.

Prosecutorial misconduct is prosecutorial misconduct, regardless of whether the victim is innocent or guilty.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 01, 2021, 11:14:41 AM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on July 01, 2021, 10:42:06 AM

True. Nonetheless, when the government makes a deal, the government should honor the deal. If the government can't live with the consequences that brings with it, then they shouldn't agree to the deal.

Prosecutorial misconduct is prosecutorial misconduct, regardless of whether the victim is innocent or guilty.

There is plenty of that with innocent people that doesn't get addressed.

Is there link that sanely explains what went on with this agreement? I was curious how much that agreement affected the later trial as far as using his testimony against him.

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Author Topic: Bill Cosby to be released (Read 1952 times)