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Title: Lies: Trump vs Obama According to the NYT
Post by: Ben on December 14, 2017, 12:18:27 PM
You know what? Without doing any research, I can tell you exactly what their methodology was. It isn't lies. It's how many times Trump said something they didn't like vs how many times Obama said something they didn't like.

Obviously both guys (as pretty much all presidents) have fibbed about stuff, and/or said stuff they expected about their policies that got changed somewhere down the line. The idea though, that Obama only lied 18 times in eight years? Ludicrous. As for Trump, while he's likely lied about some stuff, almost everything that he's accused of lying about is closer to exaggeration. He likes to say stuff like "Best in the world! Best ever!" which is more his standard showman hyperbole than outright lies.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/12/14/hack-tastic-nyt-columnists-conclude-obama-only-lied-how-many-times-in-8-years/
Title: Re: Lies: Trump vs Obama According to the NYT
Post by: sumpnz on December 14, 2017, 03:15:54 PM
The Slimes doesn't approve of a Republican POTUS?  Let me find my shocked face.
Title: Re: Lies: Trump vs Obama According to the NYT
Post by: TommyGunn on December 14, 2017, 07:18:55 PM
You know what? Without doing any research, I can tell you exactly what their methodology was. It isn't lies. It's how many times Trump said something they didn't like vs how many times Obama said something they didn't like.

Obviously both guys (as pretty much all presidents) have fibbed about stuff, and/or said stuff they expected about their policies that got changed somewhere down the line. The idea though, that Obama only lied 18 times in eight years? Ludicrous. As for Trump, while he's likely lied about some stuff, almost everything that he's accused of lying about is closer to exaggeration. He likes to say stuff like "Best in the world! Best ever!" which is more his standard showman hyperbole than outright lies.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/12/14/hack-tastic-nyt-columnists-conclude-obama-only-lied-how-many-times-in-8-years/


During Obama's  first term somebody gave me a small booklet titled "69 OBAMA LIES,"  which,  while perhaps not exactly 100%  objective (  :angel: )  seems to show that yes,  he was quite the liar-in-chief....especially by the end of his administration.
Title: Re: Lies: Trump vs Obama According to the NYT
Post by: French G. on December 15, 2017, 06:41:07 AM
Most transparent administration in history man! Close gitmo! End wars! Heal the earth! Nobel Peace prize!
Title: Re: Lies: Trump vs Obama According to the NYT
Post by: K Frame on December 15, 2017, 07:13:26 AM
For whatever reason, I was thinking about something along these lines this morning. Weird...

And of course my favorite Jesusbama lies...

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor

We can't drill our way to lower prices.
Title: Re: Lies: Trump vs Obama According to the NYT
Post by: Scout26 on December 16, 2017, 11:56:19 AM
Those manufacturing jobs are never coming back.

This economy is the new normal.

Not even a smidgen of corruption.

I only found about (Fast and Furious, IRS, Benghazi, etc. etc.) just like you, when I saw it on the news...

And those are the ones I think of off the top of my head (in addition to the ones previously mentioned).
Title: Re: Lies: Trump vs Obama According to the NYT
Post by: Ben on December 16, 2017, 12:58:48 PM
Some "fact checks" as the kids like to say:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/12/16/fake-news-takedown-philip-klein-nukes-ny-times-hack-tastic-obama-the-truth-teller-bs/
Title: Re: Lies: Trump vs Obama According to the NYT
Post by: just Warren on December 16, 2017, 10:21:14 PM
I was born in America.