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Roger Stone Arrest
« on: January 25, 2019, 01:36:28 PM »
An interesting question by Sarah Sanders:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/01/25/after-they-arrest-him-like-he-was-el-chapo-roger-stone-released-on-bail-and-people-have-questions/

Also interesting was how this raid was performed. A couple dozen feds with lots of battle rattle. For a "false statements" arrest of an old guy who was out on bail a couple hours later. Tell me that's not partisan optics. This could have been done by two suits in a sedan.
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 01:48:52 PM »
Quote from: Ben on January 25, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
Tell me that's not partisan optics.
In this case it is. They do the same dumb thing in many other cases just because they like to play commando. And then they shoot your dog.
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2019, 01:49:10 PM »
Does anyone remember several months back when I was talking about how democrats would use tactics they learned in WI?
-Find a lefty judge to sign a warrant on an open ended investigation targeting the President's associates. (called a 'John Doe' case in WI)
-Use SWAT to publicly and humiliatingly arrest, confiscate property, make spurious charges (if at all).
-Leak innuendos about defendant to the press*
-Have judge file gag order on defendent.
-Keep lawfare going until a higher court throws the case out.


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Stasi 101
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2019, 02:03:59 PM »
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One federal law enforcement source told Fox News on Friday that the operation was “standard” for a home arrest.

Good to know what citizens can expect.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/roger-stones-predawn-fbi-arrest-operation-sparks-controversy
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2019, 02:04:24 PM »
Quote from: Ben on January 25, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
An interesting question by Sarah Sanders:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/01/25/after-they-arrest-him-like-he-was-el-chapo-roger-stone-released-on-bail-and-people-have-questions/

Also interesting was how this raid was performed. A couple dozen feds with lots of battle rattle. For a "false statements" arrest of an old guy who was out on bail a couple hours later. Tell me that's not partisan optics. This could have been done by two suits in a sedan.

Didn't they do a no knock on Cohen at like 2am?
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2019, 02:35:26 PM »
In many of the cases isn't it communicated to the subject or their lawyer that hey, you're under arrest, deliver yourself by this date.
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2019, 02:44:36 PM »
Quote from: French G. on January 25, 2019, 02:35:26 PM
In many of the cases isn't it communicated to the subject or their lawyer that hey, you're under arrest, deliver yourself by this date.

Super common in white collar crimes, or arrests of prominent people, which makes the whole high profile raid style arrest much more suspect.
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2019, 03:30:34 PM »
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    If the FBI showed up at the Clintons at 4am, what would they find?…….certainly not Bill.

    — Juanita Broaddrick (@atensnut) January 25, 2019

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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2019, 08:22:05 AM »
And CNN was there first



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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2019, 06:15:13 PM »
A few quick points.

Everything Stone is charged with is from AFTER the campaign.

They are all process crimes.
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2019, 02:32:22 PM »
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2019, 02:42:50 PM »
Quote from: DittoHead on February 19, 2019, 02:32:22 PM
Roger Stone is not making good choices lately.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/judge-orders-hearing-on-stone-gag-order-after-his-instagram-post

Dude, he has Nixon back tat. Point me to the spot on the timeline where he made good decisions!
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2019, 04:56:18 PM »
So he gets a stock photo from somewhere that happens to have some sort of logo in the background and that is his bad decision?  That part of it is nuts.  I don't know what the rule is on criticizing the judge (who deserves it).  Is that a violation of the law or just bad form?  IMO, from what I have heard of the Manafort stuff, she is partial and should be thrown off the bench. 

He ought to get the case moved to a different judge.  I am not sure what is required for that in federal court.
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Re: Roger Stone Arrest
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2019, 05:03:40 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on February 19, 2019, 04:56:18 PM
So he gets a stock photo from somewhere that happens to have some sort of logo in the background and that is his bad decision?  That part of it is nuts.


This. It's Sarah Palin's campaign map "threat" all over again.
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