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Paging Road King Larry
« on: April 27, 2021, 10:44:08 PM »
Have you been following the story of the Indonesian submarine?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/missing-indonesian-submarine-found-broken-least-3-parts-n1265210

This article says it was  German type 209. Is that the same type as the Argentinean submarine that was lost a couple of years ago?
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Re: Paging Road King Larry
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2021, 07:57:07 AM »
Yes, I've been following that tragedy. As to type I'm not sure.
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Re: Paging Road King Larry
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2021, 08:06:01 AM »
ARA San Juan was a TR-1700 boat, not a Type 209.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_San_Juan_(S-42)

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Re: Paging Road King Larry
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2021, 11:27:08 AM »
 [tinfoil]  Subs need better windshields.... :facepalm:   seashields ....  :O
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Re: Paging Road King Larry
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2021, 01:28:40 PM »
ARA San Juan was a TR-1700 boat, not a Type 209.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_San_Juan_(S-42)

Thanks. So, different designs, but both rather old German boats. Methinks submarines may need expiry dates. In fact, did RKL write something about that at the time of the San Juan disaster?

He did. Found it: https://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=56090.0

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It's not just hull life that is a factor. A submarine is an incredibly complex machine with a huge number of big moving parts. 3000 PSI hydraulics, 4500 PSI air systems thousands of valves for air water and hydraulics, hundred of hydraulic rams, miles and miles of piping, miles and miles of wiring. All of it subject to high stress on a routine basis. The boats I was on are pushed hard with an optempo that will wear out both machines and men in short order

Both of the boats I served in were getting old by the time I got to them.
The USS Haddo (SSN-604) had already been in active service only a few years less than I'd been alive. When I got there it was a tired boat ready for overhaul. I rode it through the yards at MINSY returning to the fleet in 1984. She was Decommed in 1991 with only 26 years active service. I had a chance to talk to a couple of guys that were on the decom crew, it was worn out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Haddo_(SSN-604)

The USS Flyin Fish (SSN-673) was a whopping 6 years newer. I got to it fairly fresh out of an overhaul  and rode it on 2 major deployments. Even fresh out of overhaul *expletive deleted*it was constantly breaking. Mostly it was little stuff but there were a few sphincter tightening events. It was Decommed less than 4 years after I left. It too was just flat wore out after 24 years active service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Flying_Fish_(SSN-673)

There is only so many times you can compress a hull. And yes when you take one deep the walls do close in on you. I've seen the old string between the frames trick many times.

So both of these old subs were constructed in the 1980s, and both had gone through a refit in the early 2000s. Two incidents is still anecdotal, but I'm sensing a trend.
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Re: Paging Road King Larry
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2021, 12:20:37 AM »
Found

Missing Indonesian submarine found broken into at least 3 parts
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/missing-indonesian-submarine-found-broken-least-3-parts-n1265210
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Re: Paging Road King Larry
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2021, 11:04:36 AM »
Jeeze, 40 years old for this one.
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