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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2015, 02:55:31 PM »
Wonder how much Bullseye they will use for the forensics test?

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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2015, 12:28:35 AM »
Almost certainly not rifled...

Wikipedia (yeah, I know) says often rifled, so maybe yes, maybe no.
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2015, 06:31:00 AM »
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2015, 09:44:15 AM »
Just doodlin' around looking for whether he'd get his antique back.  Found this:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/02/video-retired-teacher-faces-10-years-for-flintlock-possession/

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Indeed, possession of a slingshot is a felony under New Jersey law.
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As Van Gilder states in the video above–”Avoid New Jersey. Don’t come here.”  And as Nappen notes, twice as many families are currently leaving New Jersey as are arriving in the state. New Jersey’s population loss relative to other states is also evident in its loss of a House seat following the 2010 census.  Other northeastern extremist gun control states have similarly lost House seats in recent years, with New York losing two seats and Massachusetts losing one seat.

Interesting.  I hope they didn't lose those seats out of rural areas, but probably did.

The video referred to above.  I guess it's mostly re-enactment, but still interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu6nBQI8ZVo&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2015, 05:13:23 PM »
The prosecutor has dropped the felony gun charge:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/26/nj-prosecutor-drops-gun-charge-against-retired-teacher-over-centuries-old/

Something sensible happened in New Jersey.  Good thing I was sitting down when I read it.
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2015, 06:24:22 PM »
The prosecutor has dropped the felony gun charge:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/26/nj-prosecutor-drops-gun-charge-against-retired-teacher-over-centuries-old/

Something sensible happened in New Jersey.  Good thing I was sitting down when I read it.


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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2015, 08:39:19 PM »
So we have the Newark Airport case (Greg Revell), we have the PA mom, and now this gentleman.

Revell -- charges dropped (after much negative publicity)

PA Mom -- charges reduced, allowed to enter accelerated rehabilitation (after much negative publicity)

Gordon Van Gilder -- charges dropped (after much negative publicity)

It's beginning to appear that none of NJ's prosecutors want to become national laughingstocks for actually taking such a ridiculous case to court -- and probably losing it. I was pretty certain that Revell would have been exonerated if his case had gone to trial, and that the prosecutor dropped it because he didn't want to risk losing and setting a precedent. I think even more strongly that had to be a consideration here. Can you imagine trying a man who looks like Santa Clause, and who is a retired and highly respected teacher, as a felon with a gun -- over a pistol that George Washington might have had stuck in his belt when he rowed across the river? I don't think they'd ever find a jury who would convict him -- so why bother?

This was just law enforcement comedy theater, Keystone Kops. Must be a small county with not enough real crime for the sheriff to investigate. A ballistic test on an historical flintlock? When the charge is just possession in a vehicle? WHY? So they get a fired ... projectile (not really a bullet). So what? There were no crimes in the county suspected of having been committed by a flintlock-bearing Santa Clause, so what are they going to compare it to?

I think the deputies all just decided, "Hey, that's pretty cool. Let's touch it off and see how it works!"
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2015, 09:01:24 PM »
Being a card carrying member of 'The Party' has its priveledges.

Have any spare razor blades?
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2015, 01:47:10 AM »
 ??? ^ ???

(Not "hip" enough to get it.)
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2015, 05:05:14 PM »
??? ^ ???

(Not "hip" enough to get it.)

Orwell reference.
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2015, 09:07:08 PM »
Orwell reference.

I've read 1984 at least twice and I still don't get it.

Animal Farm?
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2015, 09:13:25 PM »
I've read 1984 at least twice and I still don't get it.

Animal Farm?

1984.   There was a shortage of razor blades.  Winston's colleagues kept asking him if he had any extras.
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2015, 10:34:15 PM »
Here's a sort-of sequel to 1984 in case anyone is interested. I read it long ago and still remember large bits of it. Good book and a complete 180 from 1984.
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Re: Flintlock May Send Man to Prison
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2015, 05:14:25 PM »
^

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1099656.Orwell_s_Revenge

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Experience has shown, however, that Orwell's vision of the future was profoundly and significantly wrong: The conjunction of the new communications technologies has not produced a master-slave relation between person and computer, but rather exciting possibilities for partnership. Peter Huber reveres Orwell's legacy, but understands his error, seeing this new technological revolution for what it isa [sic] force not for political repression, but for freedom and enhanced creativity. [Bolding mine.]


Oh, yeah?

I doubt that Big Brother would let it go that far.  Big Brother would soon be instituting restrictions on any two-way communications between individuals... or would at least be monitoring these.

Come to think of it...  [popcorn]

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