Well, L&P at THR just got a good cleaning

[cosine]

Better keep civil and on topic in the L&P forum at THR. I've just watched Coronach lock down over a dozen threads in the last ten minutes.

Actually, it's been pretty funny seeing that long column of locks on the left side of the page.

[Fjolnirsson]

Holy crap! You weren't kidding! Well, it did need some cleansing....
Still, good grief!

[280plus]

Apparently he's mad as hell and he ain't gonna take it anymore!

[cosine]

I'll say, I did like many of the topics that got closed down, and did learn quite a bit from them. We'll just have to get people to start posting those topics here instead of on THR.

[LawDog]

We have noted that the civility of L&P has been plummeting of late.

Might be worth paying attention to.

LawDog

[cosine]

We have noted that the civility of L&P has been plummeting of late.

Might be worth paying attention to.

LawDog

I noticed that too, and tried to keep civil. I expect that posting civilly will be easier when threads are on-topic for L&P.

[Dannyboy]

I don't have any problems with what happened.  The thing I don't get is that there were moderators posting in some of those threads without locking them.  Another thing;  has anyone seen a thread locked because it was too long before?  That's a new one to me.

[garyk/nm]

My thread lasted 14 minutes longer than I thought it would.

[TexasRifleman]

Glad to see it finally.
It was getting to be a bit much.

[Old Dog]

It certainly does seem of late that almost every thread degenerated into some type of us vs. them, you vs. me deal ...

[Sindawe]

Might be worth paying attention to.

WTH!  What a load of %#$!$# BILGE!  You take that back you no good low down (*@^!%  

I think the cleaning in L&P on THR was overdue.  We HAD been drifting in topics from the primary intent of that sub forum, and I too had been noticing an increase in the venom spewed about during the "discussions".

Dannyboy:  I've seen 'em locked when the got long and were running over the same ground again and again and again, or drifting away from the starting topic.

[cosine]

My thread lasted 14 minutes longer than I thought it would.

Probably because just as you posted it Coronach went offline. He probably didn't see it before he logged off.

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

Thank goodness. Thanks, Coronach.

- NF

[Azrael256]

I think the cleaning in L&P on THR was overdue.

Agreed.  Threads on the fate of CCW in WI were spot on for topic (and didn't get locked...  hmm...), but there has been a good pile of non gun related political BS going on as of late.  I've been out of L&P for awhile now because of it.

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

Yup. For me, it's the PRNJ bashing that makes the place depressing. But I don't see a single instance of a thread that got locked that I think shouldn't have.

- NF

[Ben]

I also agree a wake-up call was needed. I think for the most part over the years, the moderators have given a lot of leeway topic-wise in L&P, and I think we all handled it well. Lately though, it's been worse than the Roundtable was before it was shutdown.

The lowest common denominator instigating trolls and temper losing name-callers (not to mention the easily offended "report this post" panic button hitting whiners) have now lost us that topic leeway.

And yes, I know my calling the name-callers names is hypocritical.

[Guest]

I agree a Wake Up was needed and more needs to be done.

I shared with Oleg and Tamara via phone, others including Staff and Members -  that yes I know I am not the best representative of THR/TFL/APS.

Also shared-
THR has been sliding down a slippery slope for some time. Some new members have not been so good and makes me feel THR, and sister sites were targeted to disrupt the Misson Statements.

 Read : THR and sister sites  is/are  a burr up their  butt and they want THR and sister sites tainted.

Does not take much to note a number of folks do not post as they used to at THR, including Staff.

For awhile Art, LawDog and others have politely asked, suggested some folks think about the core Mission Statement.

Okay if being nice don't work - get a baseball bat. Some folks listen better once you get their attention...

If folks recall APS was started because the Roundtable was a thorn. Granted some Staff liked THR, Some still dislike  the Roundtable. APS affords us Plankowners and new folks alike to discuss matters not under the THR Misson Statement.Non-firearm related matters if want.

My feeling is Attraction works better than Promotion at times on most things. So if a fence sitter reads about Cars, Computers and Music,  reads a different perception of Gun Owners - attracted to what read - then perhaps that fence sitter will consider our view on Pro-Gun stuff is good too.

Regards,

Steve

[Ready on the Right]

I was tempted to start cutting and pasting every anti-Bush and anti-Hillary story onto L&P first thing every morning just to beat everyone to it.  

I was offline for a few months an I came back to an apparent flood of DNC and DEmocratic Underground types who had been given the mission to flood gun boards with drivel.  Of course "your candidate is worse" is not a convincing counter-argument for anyone.  The next few election cycles should be interesting.

Glad to see that THR is getting back to RKBA.

[Ready on the Right]

"Read : THR and sister sites  is/are  a burr up their  butt and they want THR and sister sites tainted."

Exactly!

[cosine]

Now with most of the trouble out of the way, I hope we will be able to have topical and polite discussions in the L&P forum for a while, if not forever.

[chud]

I'm new to THR (and here).  I wanted to post in the thread titled "Another armed incursion on U.S.-Mexico border" since I have some knowledge about what's going on down there; I live in San Antonio, have family in the Rio Grande Valley, and friends in Monterrey - but the thread was locked.

[cosine]

I'm new to THR (and here).  I wanted to post in the thread titled "Another armed incursion on U.S.-Mexico border" since I have some knowledge about what's going on down there; I live in San Antonio, have family in the Rio Grande Valley, and friends in Monterrey - but the thread was locked.

That thread was either off-topic or was too vitrolic to allow it to stay open if you found it locked.

If you really want to post what you know, post it here (in a new thread) with a link back to the thread at THR. We'll be able to see what the orginal topic was at THR, and will be able to also read what you wish to say.

[Oleg Volk]

THR is a bit of a cooperative entity. The person who does the locking isn't always the initiator of the process, just the executor.

[Fjolnirsson]

Now with most of the trouble out of the way, I hope we will be able to have topical and polite discussions in the L&P forum for a while, if not forever.

That would be nice.

[Sylvilagus Aquaticus]

Dang, I spend a couple of weeks moving and don't get by so much in the ensuing period and things start getting weirder.

Guess I need to spend less time *really* working and more time surfing between solving id10t calls. What little I'd been around there it did seem like there was a lot more balloon juice lately.  Guess I've gotten jaundiced in my advancing old age, but (seeing someone who has less) than a hundred posts over there or 'member since last month'  means I tend not to read what they say .

Regards,
Rabbit.