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Title: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Balog on July 12, 2007, 02:22:26 PM
After mbs357's startling revelation that El Tejon is actually Maddox, I decided to revisit the Best Page in the Universe. I came across this little gem and was reminded of G98's mac thread.

Warning! Link contains lots o' profanity, so if you're the kind of person that gets offended by that sort of thing you should probably avoid it.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: bedlamite on July 12, 2007, 02:36:19 PM
I aways liked this video
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: charby on July 12, 2007, 02:38:52 PM
dude that was so awesome!

Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: esheato on July 12, 2007, 03:00:59 PM
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If I want to manufacture biological weapons with my copy of iTunes, I will, fascists. Ditch this bullshit.

Hahaha...

Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Balog on July 12, 2007, 03:05:22 PM
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My Mac is practicing some kind of psychological warfare on me!


That's awesome!!!
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Nick1911 on July 12, 2007, 03:40:23 PM
 grin grin grin
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Standing Wolf on July 12, 2007, 04:33:46 PM
Sour grapes.
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Gewehr98 on July 12, 2007, 05:06:53 PM
I'd considered pulverizing that PowerMac G4 with buckshot or 550gr .45-70 rounds, while videotaping it for YouTube.

But I needed to recoup the investment. 

In hindsight, I should've pulverized it for YouTube.   grin
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: bedlamite on July 12, 2007, 05:14:33 PM
Gwwehr98- I wonder how much Tannerite it would take to fill a G4 case ...
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Gewehr98 on July 12, 2007, 05:27:01 PM
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Gewehr98- I wonder how much Tannerite it would take to fill a G4 case

I dunno.  I'll let you know when I get another POS G4.   grin
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: RevDisk on July 12, 2007, 06:31:37 PM
I'd considered pulverizing that PowerMac G4 with buckshot or 550gr .45-70 rounds, while videotaping it for YouTube.

But I needed to recoup the investment. 

In hindsight, I should've pulverized it for YouTube.   grin

The real question.  Will it blend?    angel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg1ckCkm8YI - iPhone meets blender
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Gewehr98 on July 12, 2007, 07:00:37 PM
Sweet!  grin
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Antibubba on July 12, 2007, 08:34:23 PM
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Gewehr98- I wonder how much Tannerite it would take to fill a G4 case ...

I'll bet someone at Mossad could tell you.    angel
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Manedwolf on July 13, 2007, 04:47:46 AM
Though a few comments there make no sense and are borne of sour grapes and ignorance. Like:
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I don't know why Mac users get so defensive when you call them idiots. I mean, Apple is a company that has built its entire user base around the fact that its users can't do simple things like turn their computers on.

Uh...huh. Yeah. Okay, I'll remember that next time I'm working in the Unix shell, since it's, you know, a real Unix machine. Or using...

My audio editing app:



Or my video editing app, the one used by most TV productions now:



The author ought to look at those, then look at the solitaire-playing secretary on the Windows PC who can't figure out where the Any key is. Wink
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Sindawe on July 13, 2007, 04:53:22 AM
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I aways liked this video

Same here.  "...like a Jack Russel "freaking" Terrier..."

Admit it Standing Wolf, you lust after thealmighty Blue Screen of Death.  grin

My next machine is 'prolly gonna be a fully loaded Mac of some flavor.
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Cromlech on July 13, 2007, 05:01:33 AM
The author ought to look at those, then look at the solitaire-playing secretary on the Windows PC who can't figure out where the Any key is. Wink
You do know that often, the whole point of what Maddox writes is to be inflammatory, and to wind people up, right?
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: mtnbkr on July 13, 2007, 06:00:24 AM
Uh...huh. Yeah. Okay, I'll remember that next time I'm working in the Unix shell, since it's, you know, a real Unix machine.

Don't get all uppity because Apple finally saw the light and wrapped their gui around a real OS.  In fact, WinNT (and 2k and probably XP) have had a real command line capability for much longer.  Problem is, most folks don't bother learning it, preferring to use the gui instead (paper MCSEs for example).  Back when I was a Windows admin, I used the command line more than the gui because it was faster if you knew the commands.  There was very little you couldn't do via the command prompt and if you got the Resource Kit CD, you even got a collection of Unix style commands (kill, ps, etc). 

Oh, and a Mac isn't a "real Unix machine" <peers at the Sun box on the desk...>. Tongue

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then look at the solitaire-playing secretary on the Windows PC who can't figure out where the Any key is. 
She would be playing Solitaire on any computer stuck in front of her. 

Chris
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Silver Bullet on July 13, 2007, 06:35:39 AM
Back in the late 80s, the DOS guys would give me a hard time about me using my Mac, deriding the graphical user interface (GUI) and mouse.  Since then, they've adopted Windows and have the same things I had years earlier.

So, it's been nearly 20 years of glorious payback !   laugh  I'm glad to see, from Maddox' site, that all my time and effort haven't been for nothing.   smiley

Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Silver Bullet on July 13, 2007, 06:38:31 AM
Manedwolf,

Great screenshots !   cool

I always find it satisfying to feel like I've got my computer working for me, rather than the other way around.  Looks like you've got it cranking out the product for you.
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Harold Tuttle on July 13, 2007, 07:36:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vniMR6Ez9cE
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Cromlech on July 13, 2007, 08:21:02 AM
Yeah, well, I hacked the Gibson.
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: RevDisk on July 13, 2007, 09:38:37 AM
Though a few comments there make no sense and are borne of sour grapes and ignorance. Like:

Uh...huh. Yeah. Okay, I'll remember that next time I'm working in the Unix shell, since it's, you know, a real Unix machine. Or using...

Na.  A real unix machine you could hunt down parts from anywhere instead of being hardware locked to one vendor.  Even the really weird Sun boxen can usually run stock parts.

That's not sour grapes or ignorance.  With a PC, I can run down to Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, Circuit City, or one of the million small computer repair shops and buy a spare HD, CD/DVD drive, etc.  From what I understand, Apple retains sole control over their hardware.  Am I wrong?

I can buy ANY case I want, ANY compadible motherboard (or hell, any fits inside the case if you're creative), ANY hard drive, ANY optical media reader, and whatever weird attachments I want.   Oh yes, and I can put whatever OS I want on it.  Lemme know when Apple ships a stock Mac with Linux or Windows straight from the factory.  I can buy a PC pre-loaded with any OS on the planet. 

I'm not sure how they came up with the slogon "Think differently" when they sell the most restrictive system on the market.    grin
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Mabs2 on July 13, 2007, 09:55:24 AM
Yes.
I swear, every time he opens his blowhole I picture Maddox ranting on and on.
It's uncanny!
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Manedwolf on July 13, 2007, 09:56:33 AM
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That's not sour grapes or ignorance.  With a PC, I can run down to Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, Circuit City, or one of the million small computer repair shops and buy a spare HD, CD/DVD drive, etc.  From what I understand, Apple retains sole control over their hardware.  Am I wrong?

In general, yes. Mac desktops can use any hard drive from your local store, media drive, whatever, and the memory used is standard as well. The video cards are ATIs and nVidias.

Apple desktops haven't been like that for many years.


They also now let you use Bootcamp to run Windows natively. Or as the only OS on the machine if you wish. It's an Intel, so it's absolutely native.


Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: RevDisk on July 13, 2007, 10:18:25 AM
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That's not sour grapes or ignorance.  With a PC, I can run down to Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, Circuit City, or one of the million small computer repair shops and buy a spare HD, CD/DVD drive, etc.  From what I understand, Apple retains sole control over their hardware.  Am I wrong?

In general, yes. Mac desktops can use any hard drive from your local store, media drive, whatever, and the memory used is standard as well. The video cards are ATIs and nVidias.

Apple desktops haven't been like that for many years.

Can ya be a lil more specific?  They'll take any PC memory, hard drive and 5.25 drive bay device (CD/DVD, etc all)?  Are they open for any graphic card, or just specific ATI/nVidia cards that are not PC compadible?  What about PCI slots?
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Cromlech on July 13, 2007, 11:53:09 AM
My friend has a Mac Mini, which does everything that he needs (Open Transport Tycoon, and the Internet). However, I would dearly like to experiment with trying to fit my 8800GTX to the outside of the case, and connecting it all up, somehow.  grin

I have been known to triple boot Win XP Pro, Win XP Pro x64, and the odd random Linux OS (Debian, SUSE, etcetera), but I have no need of a Mac OS. I am not a multimedia editing madman, I mainly game (no Mr Mac, I mean REAL decent games), watch 1080 HD movies, listen to music, and surf the INTARWEBNETZ.

Don't bother asking me for a good reason why I have had both XP Pro x32 and x64, because you won't get one out of me.

 P.S iTunes can chow down on a fat bowl of my nuts (another Maddox reference).
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Firethorn on July 13, 2007, 02:04:34 PM
Can ya be a lil more specific?  They'll take any PC memory, hard drive and 5.25 drive bay device (CD/DVD, etc all)?  Are they open for any graphic card, or just specific ATI/nVidia cards that are not PC compadible?  What about PCI slots?

As I understand it, Macs operate on a little-endian basis, while microsoft/IBM operate on a big-endian basis.

So the video card is physically the same, but has to have a custom firmware to operate in a mac machine.  That may have changed since they changed over to intel chips.

little-endian:  For two byte integer, the smallest number is on the end, like how conventional numbers are done
big-endian:  For the same two bytes, the first byte is for the small amounts(1-128), the second for the large ones(up to 32 or 64k).
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Phyphor on July 15, 2007, 12:36:07 PM
Uh...huh. Yeah. Okay, I'll remember that next time I'm working in the Unix shell, since it's, you know, a real Unix machine.

Don't get all uppity because Apple finally saw the light and wrapped their gui around a real OS.  In fact, WinNT (and 2k and probably XP) have had a real command line capability for much longer.  Problem is, most folks don't bother learning it, preferring to use the gui instead (paper MCSEs for example).


Exactly.  It's so much faster to just run cmd and kill a service manually as opposed to the control panel->Administrative Tools->Services clickfest.

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  Back when I was a Windows admin, I used the command line more than the gui because it was faster if you knew the commands.  There was very little you couldn't do via the command prompt and if you got the Resource Kit CD, you even got a collection of Unix style commands (kill, ps, etc). 

Oh, and a Mac isn't a "real Unix machine" <peers at the Sun box on the desk...>. Tongue

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then look at the solitaire-playing secretary on the Windows PC who can't figure out where the Any key is. 
She would be playing Solitaire on any computer stuck in front of her. 

Chris

No doubt.  If your secretary is playing solitaire on a company machine, you failed to properly set up the policies.   grin
Title: Re: One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't....
Post by: Paddy on July 15, 2007, 12:44:01 PM
Two of my major pet peeves.  1)People who never STFU  2)Computer snobs