And yet another good guy with a gun story, not a good ending

[BobR]

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/passerby-in-domestic-violence-incident-now-facing-murder-charges/34305354


Cliff notes:

Good guy sees a domestic violence event unfold, stops to intervene, gets assaulted with a baseball bat, assaulter and DV victim depart the scene, good guy retrieves weapon form back pack follows assaulter and shoots 3 times, two hitting the assaulter in the back. Assaulter makes the celestial transfer, good guy gives statement and is now in local lock up facing murder charges (either 1st or 2nd degree depending on source).

Knowing when to disengage is also a very important thing to know. It is reported that the good guy took a couple of blows to the head from a baseball bat so maybe that will help his case in a diminished capacity somehow.

bob

[dogmush]

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/passerby-in-domestic-violence-incident-now-facing-murder-charges/34305354


Cliff notes:

Good guy sees a domestic violence event unfold, stops to intervene, gets assaulted with a baseball bat, assaulter and DV victim depart the scene, good guy retrieves weapon form back pack follows assaulter and shoots 3 times, two hitting the assaulter in the back. Assaulter makes the celestial transfer, good guy gives statement and is now in local lock up facing murder charges (either 1st or 2nd degree depending on source).

Knowing when to disengage is also a very important thing to know. It is reported that the good guy took a couple of blows to the head from a baseball bat so maybe that will help his case in a diminished capacity somehow.

bob

That's where it all went sideways.  Like you said, gotta know when to let them walk away.

Unless the aggressor was dragging the DV victom away under duress, which the story does not imply, the shooter is up a creek.

[MechAg94]

1.  He could try to claim he thought the girl was still in danger.  Not sure if that would fly unless there is something left unsaid in the article.

2.  Sounds like he should have retrieved the gun before intervening, not after. 

[BobR]

unless there is something left unsaid in the article

That is a given.

I guess he is lucky it happened here in a way, many other places it would be "Soldier murders fleeing innocent citizen by shooting him in the back". :(

bob

[230RN]

^ Heh!

I wish "journalists"  were as good at untwisting events as they are at twisting them.

[Blakenzy]

Domestic violence is a lose-lose-lose scenario. Don't get in the middle if you can avoid it. It's a sad and extremely hazardous, screwed up situation, the victim often being a moral enabler of said violence. You cannot "save" them. Get in the middle and you will probably get it from both ends. Call the police, be a good witness.

[Tallpine]

Domestic violence is a lose-lose-lose scenario. Don't get in the middle if you can avoid it. It's a sad and extremely hazardous, screwed up situation, the victim often being a moral enabler of said violence. You cannot "save" them. Get in the middle and you will probably get it from both ends. Call the police, be a good witness.

Or it might be a consensual bondage game 

[Fitz]

That's where it all went sideways.  Like you said, gotta know when to let them walk away.

Unless the aggressor was dragging the DV victom away under duress, which the story does not imply, the shooter is up a creek.

Yep.

[BobR]

Or it might be a consensual bondage game  

It just might be closer to the truth than you imagine!!!

<snip>

At some point he began physically assaulting her, pushing her into a fence, knocking her down, picking her up by her arms, hitting her, and pushing her down. Edward Bushnell happened by on a skateboard, saw what Poindexter was doing, and rode over to he and VB. Police say Bushnell said something to the effect of, "Hey, why don't you try picking on someone your own size, not a woman!"

<snip>

as the two were leaving, Bushnell was reaching into his backpack for a 9mm handgun, a gun for which he does have a legal concealed weapons permit.

According to Bushnell, from a distance of about 30 feet, he took aim at Poindexter's back, in a two-handed stance, and fired three times, hitting Poindexter with all three shots.

<snip>

Police showed up moments later. VB is quoted in court documents as saying "That's what we [VB and Poindexter] do! We beat each other up. That doesn't give someone the right to shoot him [Poindexter]."

The shooter will not fare well in this I am afraid. Also the advice to stay the fark away from DV on the street is a very valid statement. Unless it is beyond painfully obvious that there is a danger of loss of life I will use my cell phone only and try to be a good witness.

bob

http://www.khq.com/story/29618357/court-docs-5th-and-altamont-shooter-hit-victim-3-times-in-the-back

[French G.]

The local deputies here have stated in private their unofficial DV policy. Drive slow, they prefer to show up after the fight is over.