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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: AZRedhawk44 on October 23, 2011, 09:51:28 AM
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Going skydiving this morning.
Wish me luck and a soft bounce!
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Why anyone in their right mind would jump out of a perfectly good aircraft is beyond me.
Oh wait a minute, I have done that only without a parachute but a rope. :laugh:
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One of the things I'll never ever try. Not to freak you out, but I've seen more than a few skydiving accidents in my ATC time. Good luck, good openings!
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I loved my civilian skydiving. If you find things like bungee-jumping and roller-coasters fun, then skydiving is awesome. Don't forget to pull the little handle though.
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Going skydiving this morning.
Wish me luck and a soft bounce!
CCW ???
=)
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Uncle Sam paid me for every jump. The only way I'd do it again is if someone offered up serious $$$$ and a life insurance policy/bond.
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Skydiving is fun! I enjoyed the under-canopy time more than the free fall.
Are you doing free-fall or static line? Tandem or solo via AFF?
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Why anyone in their right mind would jump out of a perfectly good aircraft is beyond me.
Oh wait a minute, I have done that only without a parachute but a rope. :laugh:
When did they start making perfectly good airplanes?
14 .mil jumps 1 civ jump. Now my feet, knees and hips hurt too much.
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I'd rather use my 1 hour of flight time (no professional instruction) and crash the plane myself.
Death is just nature's way of telling you to watch your airspeed.
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Going skydiving this morning.
Wish me luck and a soft bounce!
Speak to Avenger. I believe he could recommend a tandem partner who would provide a very soft bounce. ;/
DD
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Speak to Avenger. I believe he could recommend a tandem partner who would provide a very soft bounce.
You'd have to use a cargo chute, though.
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Why anyone in their right mind would jump out of a perfectly good aircraft is beyond me.
For me its my person Gom jabbar. I have a problem with high places beyond the 2nd floor. Even just watching programs about people rock climbing or driving over the Peruvian death roads makes me very uncomfortable.
Using my reason to control the screaming monkey inside and overcome the phobia was a personal milestone for me.
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Who wants to hear some horror stories?
>:D
I was at Laguna AAF when the golden knights whacked into each other.
Spent just over 3 months supporting the golden knights, as well as the HALO and other parachute schools there. Seen several auger in, personally witnessed 1 fatality during that det.
When I was in Salt Lake, tandem jumper smacked into the side of a building. Lucky for the qualified skydiver, his passenger cushioned the impact. She, however, died.
Airshow practice here friday before last....the guy with the American flag broke his leg.
Seems like great fun!!!! :O
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I'd rather jump out of a plane again than bungee jump or do one of those swings they have at the State fairs.....
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I'd rather jump out of a plane again than bungee jump or do one of those swings they have at the State fairs.....
coming down in those swings isn't too bad. the part where they haul you up is scary
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I'd rather jump out of a plane again than bungee jump or do one of those swings they have at the State fairs.....
I haven't been party to any accidents at state fairs. But I've certainly worked plenty of lifeflight helos to the scenes of skydiving accidents.
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I haven't been party to any accidents at state fairs. But I've certainly worked plenty of lifeflight helos to the scenes of skydiving accidents.
How many plane crashes?
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How many plane crashes?
I've been a part of plenty of those, too. And most of them involved either .mil aircraft, or general aviaiton guys doing something stupid.
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I've been a part of plenty of those, too. And most of them involved either .mil aircraft, or general aviaiton guys doing something stupid.
You've been involved in all sorts of aviation mishaps. Are you sure you should go back to work pushing tin? :police:
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You've been involved in all sorts of aviation mishaps. Are you sure you should go back to work pushing tin? :police:
.... >:D
I've been cleared of all wrong doing!
The ones in the .mil were the best.....19 year old Marines working on 20 million dollar aircraft piloted by 22 year old marines. What could go wrong?!?
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For me its my person Gom jabbar. I have a problem with high places beyond the 2nd floor. Even just watching programs about people rock climbing or driving over the Peruvian death roads makes me very uncomfortable.
Using my reason to control the screaming monkey inside and overcome the phobia was a personal milestone for me.
Here's one for ya. I'm a pilot. And I live on top of a mountain. But I'm scared of heights.
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I'm back. You can all release your collective inhaled breaths.
I liked the freefall.
I didn't like the canopy time.
I jumped tandem. So I guess I was just baggage. But, it was... crazy.
I will remember that square piece of sky from inside the plane for the rest of my life, I'm sure. The "WTF?" moment of actually losing a surface under me and tumbling out of the plane.
I think I didn't like the canopy time because the guy would turn hard and I felt off balance and out of control. It's like being in a sports car on a twisty road... as a passenger. I was nowhere near spewing chunks or anything, but I didn't enjoy the parachute, aside from the fact that it stopped me from pancaking against the ground and for that I am thankful.
I'm not going to take it up as a hobby. New chutes run around $8,000 or so. I saw a used one for sale with a 500-jump log, for $1000/o.b.o. I don't think I'll be buying that one, and I'd worry about someone who did. Assuming a $1000 chute is questionable in quality, it shouldn't be jumped in. And an $8000 chute that depreciates over a period of 500 jumps to $1000 loses about $14 in value each jump. Then maintenance costs on the chute, lift costs in the plane per jump, instruction.... It's a hobby that makes High Power and Three Gun look downright cheap.
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I have a fear of heights, well not so much heights but the hitting the ground if i fall part. I've always been able to function at the top of a ladder or rigged aloft to work on a mast when I have to but I don't freaking like it.
Decided to give bungee jumping a try to see if that would maybe take some of the edge off. 180' from a crane basket. Might have even worked to knock the edge off my fear of heights except the guy that went after me, they managed to smack him into the ground. Kind of ruined the whole experience for me. I never did here what happened to the guy they bounced off the ground but the last I saw of him he was hanging in the harness convulsing.
I have video of it. I've used it to convince a few people out of bungee jumping.
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I got to do a tandem jump in college. Jumped from 14,000ft and got close to a minute of free fall. Got to fall through a cloud too. Hard to breathe inside a cloud.
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New chutes run around $8,000 or so. I saw a used one for sale with a 500-jump log, for $1000/o.b.o.
You might find a good deal on an almost new one: only used once, never opened. =D
Horseback is plenty high for me. ;)
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I have video of it. I've used it to convince a few people out of bungee jumping.
Bungee jumping is just...stupid.
Parachuting at least makes a bit of sense.
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You might find a good deal on an almost new one: only used once, never opened.
- Slightly stained
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I've been a part of plenty of those, too. And most of them involved either .mil aircraft, or general aviaiton guys doing something stupid.
Plenty of plane crashes? So they don't make a perfectly good airplane then....
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I did some civilian skydiving back in the late 70's. I really liked it. But now that I am old and fat, and not to mention cheap, I will have to leave that particular sport in the past. I have never had any desire to bungee but that ride at the Stratosphere in Las Vegas where you jump off the tower and go straight down for 800 feet or so looks interesting. http://www.stratospherehotel.com/Tower/Rides/SkyJump
bob
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Bungee jumping is just...stupid.
Parachuting at least makes a bit of sense.
I can't argue with that however, I was much, much younger then =D.
But, there are only 2 valid reasons to jump out of an airplane while it is actually flying.
-Actual paratrooper operations/training (and that's debatable)
-The damn airplane is about to fall out of the sky anyway.
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Plenty of plane crashes? So they don't make a perfectly good airplane then....
Mostly pilot error. There's something not smart about trying to duck under a ragged '600 ceiling in hilly to mountainous terrain. Or miscalculating your fuel. The miliatry ones were a mixed bag, though. Lots of good ones there.
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There's something not smart about trying to duck under a ragged '600 ceiling in hilly to mountainous terrain.
Isn't that the truth. Those granite clouds will ruin your day for sure.
bob
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.... >:D
I've been cleared of all wrong doing!
The ones in the .mil were the best.....19 year old Marines working on 20 million dollar aircraft piloted by 22 year old marines. What could go wrong?!?
I sense a pattern....
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I sense a pattern....
Oh, the Navy and Air Farce have the same problem, trust me on that. The Air Farce guys were always funny because they get quite wound up over emergencies. The ground crews, squadron safety guys or SOFs would always call us right in the middle of the emergency with some information that really didn't matter to us. Was Supervising an F16 emergency with engine problems when the squadron safety officer (F16's) called up to try and explain to me how a precautionary flame-out approach works. I laughed at him and told him I'd already worked two simulated flame out approaches that shift, I think I know what I'm doing.... :facepalm:
Of course, between the 19 year old mechanics and mid 20 year old pilots, I was a 21 year old tower supervisor.... >:D
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I gave it a go during the summer of 2003. Started out on static line and progressed on up. I went through 14 jumps, failed I think 8 of them, and decided to give it up. Too my driving, waiting around, and getting banged up badly a few times when I pulled looking at the blue stuff instead of the green stuff.
Fun stuff.
From what I remember most of the fatalities had to do with people doing stupid stuff near other people or immovable obstacles including the ground. It's pretty safe, considering what you're doing, if you avoid dangerous behavior.
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It's pretty safe, considering what you're doing, if you avoid dangerous behavior.
Like skydiving ;)
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Like skydiving ;)
Nah, stuff like diving head down with a partner. A couple of older guys collided doing that at my local DZ just a couple weeks before I made my first jump. One died while in the air, the other landed unconscious.
Most of the injuries/deaths I read about at the time were doing stupid stuff near the ground. Like trying to swoop through a hangar, or coming in at 45mph, or just not paying attention to what was below you (power lines, interstate highway).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcEx1FVEc_w
I was there for GHB's 1997 jump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AyT5ry9ayU
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5 with the Americans, 5 with the Germans, 1 in Hawaii. 2 broken legs. I want to do it one last time.
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I want to try it. I do have a little fear of heights at times but that's part of what adds to the thrill. And pushing myself further than I've gone before, seeing if I have what it takes to swallow the fear and take that step into nothing.
What Sumpnz said about not being able to breath easily inside a cloud caught my attention. It's the little details like that that make trying something new more interesting.
These are the reasons I've done half of the crazy/stupid/spectacular/memorable things I've done in my life.
Glad you tried it and shared AZ. Did you get any pics by chance?
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I want to try it. I do have a little fear of heights at times but that's part of what adds to the thrill.
I've got a pretty bad fear of heights too, but being 5,000 feet in air and looking down is way different than being on a ladder. That extra 4,980 feet lets you know you've got time to think about what to do before you meet the ground again. I was a lot less apprehensive up there than I thought.
And pushing myself further than I've gone before, seeing if I have what it takes to swallow the fear and take that step into nothing.
Funny thing about that "step" -- it wasn't a step in my case. Standard exit for a student from a Cessna 182 (which is all we had) is broken down into 3 easy steps:
Step 1) (facing toward the rear of the plane, sitting next to the pilot but on the floor) hang your feet out the door and put them on a 6"x12" plate, place left hand on wing strut.
Step 2) Swing body out of plane, go hand-over-hand on the strut until you reach two handles mounted to the wing while getting bopped in the head by the door. Hang from them, removing feet from previous plate.
Step 3) Let go when given the command.
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Here's a video. Only difference is we actually had handles, not just the wing strut to hang from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wtNx3XXtY
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No pics, Mrs Smith.
They wanted another $100 for a videographer/photographer to come with. I didn't want to pay that much.
And they didn't allow any personal cameras. Dropping hazard and so on.
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Can't say I blame you AZ - pretty pricey photos.
GigaBuist - Nope. If my life or someone else's, depended on it, then yes, I'd do it because I had to, but otherwise, I don't know. Watching the vid, I kept thinking he was going to slip and knock himself unconscious on the door.
Not really sure what the difference is but that way looks a whole lot more terrifying than just jumping. Then again, it's likely a mental thing. I sat on the Cliffs of Moher, feet hanging over the edge, leaning out to shoot pics of waves crashing on the bottom and didn't feel even a twinge of panic. Other times in similar circumstances - cliffs, rooftops, etc., it took every ounce of courage I had to even go near the edge and forget looking down. Maybe it's a mood thing.
Still want to try it. Don't know that I'd like the loss of control that goes with tandem jumping unless I REALLY trusted the person.
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Step 3) Let go when given the command.
And if you don't let go when given the command, the pilot lets go of the brakes and makes the decision for you.