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Title: Nancy pelosi
Post by: ksnecktieman on March 12, 2008, 05:03:39 PM
   I am not very good at searching for stuff either on the internet, or here in the forum. can someone verify if this is real or not? i just got it in an email and have no source for it.

      Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the
American people, you're so stupid that we're going to keep doing this until
we drain every cent from you. That's what the Speaker of the House is
saying. Read below...............



      Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. You aren't
going to believe this. Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall
Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement funds, 401Ks and
Mutual Funds!) Alas, it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal
Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities! Boy, are we in trouble... This
woman is frightening. She quotes..." We need to work toward the goal of
equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount
the rich can invest. "When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent,
she replied:  "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor,
unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million
illegal   immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of
unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long
ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to
have as 'Americans'."
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: MechAg94 on March 12, 2008, 05:13:52 PM
Raising the living standards of the unemployed would seem to be counter productive.

The many minorities in my neighborhood seem to have a standard of living that is just fine.  They don't need her help.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: MechAg94 on March 12, 2008, 05:16:01 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp
I did a quick search and this came up.  Says it is not true she said that.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: ksnecktieman on March 12, 2008, 05:44:47 PM
   Thanks mech. I use snopes all the time but I did not think they would do politics.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Werewolf on March 13, 2008, 10:10:25 AM
Deleted as irrelevant by ME!
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: HankB on March 13, 2008, 11:27:59 AM
Ms. Pelosi is too smart to say things like that in public.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: K Frame on March 13, 2008, 11:30:56 AM
It's crap.

A quick trip to Snopes will reveal that.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: El Tejon on March 13, 2008, 11:59:54 AM
I have no doubt that taxes on my Roths, SEPs are coming.  It's just too soon. angry
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: christopher on March 18, 2008, 11:01:57 AM
yeah but aren't we already taxed so illegals can use our schools, roads, hospitals, parks, etc It doesn't matter if she said it, it is in a way already happening. their actions speak louder than their words.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Justme on April 16, 2008, 06:03:57 AM
I am absolutely amazed at how many people feel that if they run something through "snopes" and "snopes" says it's not true - well then, it can't be true.  Come on people. . . think!  Quit relying on an internet source to determine what's true and what's not - particulary when it comes to your future.  Baby-boomers are now the "retirement generation" and anyone who wants to take from our future better realize the severity of their plan!
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Manedwolf on April 16, 2008, 06:06:34 AM
I am absolutely amazed at how many people feel that if they run something through "snopes" and "snopes" says it's not true - well then, it can't be true.  Come on people. . . think!  Quit relying on an internet source to determine what's true and what's not - particulary when it comes to your future.  Baby-boomers are now the "retirement generation" and anyone who wants to take from our future better realize the severity of their plan!

I am more likely to believe Snopes, which values its reputation, than a random chain email.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Justme on April 16, 2008, 06:08:13 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp
I did a quick search and this came up.  Says it is not true she said that.
Really - and who manages snopes - ever think about that???
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Manedwolf on April 16, 2008, 06:09:27 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp
I did a quick search and this came up.  Says it is not true she said that.
Really - and who manages snopes - ever think about that???

The illuminati and the Invisible Hand, of course. rolleyes
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: MechAg94 on April 16, 2008, 06:49:07 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp
I did a quick search and this came up.  Says it is not true she said that.
Really - and who manages snopes - ever think about that???
It is just another source that has a portion of trust until it disappoints me.  As said above, I trust it more than chain emails and it often links to its own sources. 

If you are going to go round suspecting conspiracies behind every corner, you are going to live a miserable life. 
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 16, 2008, 03:03:01 PM
Instead, you should cling bitterly to guns and religion.  Works for me! 
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: El Tejon on April 18, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
I cling to guns, religion, my SEPs and my abiding faith in blaming fistful.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Regolith on April 18, 2008, 09:36:10 PM
Instead, you should cling bitterly to guns and religion.  Works for me! 

I just cling to guns. Tongue

Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Archie on April 19, 2008, 07:19:42 AM
On the other hand, Senator Obama recently said - in a public setting - even if raising capital gains tax would result in a net decrease in revenue (which it invariable does) he would raise capital gains taxes anyway, out of 'fairness'.

Folks, it is a religious obligation for a liberal to raise taxes.  End of discussion.

Did Speaker Pelosi make such a statement as quoted?  Scopes says no.  Will the liberal faction in Congress keep attempting to tax the population of the United States into unconsciousness?  It appears so from their past record.

And every time you hear the old canard about "... the rich should pay their fair share..." just remember the bottom half of American earners pay no tax at all.  None.  The top one percent (1%) pay something near forty percent (40%) of all income taxes.  So who is paying their 'fair share'?
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: The Annoyed Man on April 21, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
Pelosi, a Democrat, is Speaker of the House.  And a Republican is not.  Why is that?

The above is an open invitation for all you Rush/Hannity/Cunningham, etc hatemongers to spew.  Go for it.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Boomhauer on April 21, 2008, 11:01:21 AM
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Pelosi, a Democrat, is Speaker of the House.  And a Republican is not.  Why is that?

And Congress's approval rating is lower than Bushes. Why is that?

Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: The Annoyed Man on April 21, 2008, 11:14:55 AM
Yeah.  Bush's approval rating is a real goal to strive for.  rolleyes  laugh
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on April 21, 2008, 11:21:03 AM
Well, if the Democrats were the be-all and save-all for our nation, don't you think that their approval ratings would be at least better than the evil Bushco?Huh?  Its not about aiming for Bush's approval ratings.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: RevDisk on April 21, 2008, 01:22:18 PM
I am absolutely amazed at how many people feel that if they run something through "snopes" and "snopes" says it's not true - well then, it can't be true.  Come on people. . . think!  Quit relying on an internet source to determine what's true and what's not - particulary when it comes to your future.  Baby-boomers are now the "retirement generation" and anyone who wants to take from our future better realize the severity of their plan!

Actually, the Snopes article I was in was remarkedly well researched and balanced.  I realize it's anecdotal evidence, sorta.  But still.  But I have few doubts some taxes will be levied directly or indirectly on retirement.  Usually the govt is pretty good about burying taxes so you don't initially notice them.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: wcb on April 22, 2008, 10:29:57 AM
I have no doubt that taxes on my Roths, SEPs are coming.  It's just too soon. angry
Yea but you can bet they will.  The Roth account was a huge chess move which brought a lot of cash into the coffers because people could convert traditional accounts (a smart temporary move) and the deductions went away but you watch, they will change that when government starts feeling the crunch of billions of tax free dollars going to people.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: Scout26 on April 22, 2008, 10:36:15 AM
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Yeah.  Bush's approval rating is a real goal to strive for.


When you have lower approval ratings *cough* Democrat Controlled Congress *cough* then yes, any approval rating higher then yours would be a goal.
Title: Re: Nancy pelosi
Post by: taurusowner on April 27, 2008, 08:16:07 PM
Obama is a economic populist of the same ilk that has ruined Central and South American nations again and agian.  That goes for Pelosi and that vast majority of Dems as well.  They have no real idea how economics works or how markets operate.  They don't see the failings of their theories as failures of the idea, just the failure to implement it properly or enough.

The whole idea of "equalizing incomes" is one of the most harmful ideas in teh history of modern economics.  The idea that no matter how hard you work, you can never profit from it, and no matter how hard someone slacks off, they will never be punished for it.  The fact that there is a low end to strive against and a high end to strive for is the essance of the "American Dream".