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Serenity
« on: April 10, 2010, 12:51:57 AM »
I just watched it again. 

It's beautiful. 
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 01:18:04 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7idn3PcKBM


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Yes, yes it is.  My copy's actually in my player right now, as a matter of fact.
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 01:30:02 AM »
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 02:18:31 AM »
I just watched Out of Gas and Objects in Space (again!) tonight. 
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 02:48:09 AM »
I'm still mad that Whedon killed my favorite character off. Now I can't even hold onto the vainglorious hope of a sequel, cause without [favorite character] I don't want one.  =|
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 03:43:45 AM »
I just got Serenity on BluRay (had it on DVD for a few years).  Now to sit down and watch it...

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Re: Serenity
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 11:35:27 AM »
Oh, sorry - wrong thread.  I thought it said "Senility"  =|
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 01:20:37 PM »
Says the guy whose beard is in its thirties.   :laugh:
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 04:00:17 PM »
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I'm still mad that Whedon killed my favorite character off. Now I can't even hold onto the vainglorious hope of a sequel, cause without [favorite character] I don't want one.  =|
Book, Wash or little kid taking the dirt nap with baby Jesus ??   :angel:
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 04:02:09 PM »
SERENITY NOW!!
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2010, 05:10:14 PM »
Quote from: mtnbkr on April 10, 2010, 03:43:45 AM
I just got Serenity on BluRay (had it on DVD for a few years).  Now to sit down and watch it...

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Re: Serenity
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2010, 03:57:39 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on April 10, 2010, 04:00:17 PM
Book, Wash or little kid taking the dirt nap with baby Jesus ??   :angel:

Book, I knew he was gonna go eventually as soon as I figured out he was an Alliance general.  Wash tho, kinda a pointless way to go.  Apparently Whedon is big on killing off characters.

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Re: Serenity
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2010, 10:20:09 AM »
Quote from: RevDisk on April 11, 2010, 03:57:39 AM
Apparently Whedon is big on killing off characters.

And TV series.   :lol:
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2010, 01:27:24 PM »
Fox killed the series not Whedon.
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2010, 01:50:04 PM »
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Fox killed the series not Whedon.

Maybe more than you know.  Corporate interference guidance! forced Whedon to make certain concessions he didn't want.  Two that come to mind:  Fox demanded that the character of Mal be more jovial.  I think the movie shows the Mal that Whedon wanted.

A second example:  Fox wanted aliens to be introduced into the series.  It leaves me flabbergasted to realize the extent to which Fox was totally clueless about this show.  Fortunately, Whedon was able to resist that demand.
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2010, 02:14:49 PM »
Whedon compromised by adding space monkeys to The Train Job.   =)  Speaking of which, I can live with the more jovial Mal.  That whole scene was a gut-buster.   :laugh:
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2010, 04:23:44 PM »
Adding aliens just seems silly.  They would need to be truly alien, essentially unknowable, or just humans with exaggerated traits of one kind or another, to essentially play out very human issues from a step remove.

Babylon 5 did it well but the whole point of the show was "an open city in space".  Firefly was all about people being people on a bigger canvas.
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2010, 06:14:32 PM »
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Whedon compromised by adding space monkeys to The Train Job.   =) 
And "Dead Bessie" in The Message.  :laugh:
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2010, 11:57:57 AM »
What is very enjoyable about Firefly is getting to rewatch it with a group that has not seen the show before.  Then the inevitable "what now" after the final episode.

Thankfully Whedon made Serenity to provide some closure to the story, even though the fate of some is not what we expected or hoped for...
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2010, 01:08:26 PM »
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And "Dead Bessie" in The Message.  :laugh:

You sure know how to show a guy a disgusting time.
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2010, 01:09:39 PM »
Quote from: RevDisk on April 11, 2010, 03:57:39 AM
Book, I knew he was gonna go eventually as soon as I figured out he was an Alliance general.  Wash tho, kinda a pointless way to go.  Apparently Whedon is big on killing off characters.



I thought he was an "operative". Like well... the other "operative". (I don't think he's ever given a name...)

And as to B5 doing aliens "best" I tend to agree. Despite the "90's but still clinging to the 80's" design sensibility for interior sets and costuming, B5 did a pretty good job of having a wide array of aliens, and even taking a brave occasional stab at some non humanoid ones.

Granted the Narn, Centauri, and Minbari are pretty much Star-Trek classic "rubber butt on head of the week" type of aliens, But they they did an okay job of making them part of the "younger races" club at least, and using them as plot devices to portray extreme ends of human virtues and vices.
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2010, 04:48:04 PM »
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Book, I knew he was gonna go eventually as soon as I figured out he was an Alliance general.  Wash tho, kinda a pointless way to go.  Apparently Whedon is big on killing off characters.

I thought he was an "operative". Like well... the other "operative". (I don't think he's ever given a name...)

Even if he was a former operative, he wouldn't have gotten the first class medical treatment that fast and discreetly, with no questions asked.  Book was a soldier, not an assassin.  Book wasn't brainwashed into a particular ideology, he had too much military history knowledge, wasn't supremely skilled with weapons or martial arts, does not have combat reflexes, does have knowledge of tactics and strategy, etc.  He wasn't a line soldier, otherwise the morality of killing the cop wouldn't have bothered him for a second and he wouldn't have known about the operatives.  Has "retired high brass" written all over him. 

The series never gave any hints, but if I had to make a shot in the dark...  I'd bet a dollar that if the show had not been canceled, we would have found out Book was Alliance brass at the Battle of Serenity Valley.

Either way, we'll find out soon enough.  "Serenity: The Shepherd's Tale" comic is coming out.
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2010, 05:42:50 PM »
Killing off Wash was Alan Tudyk's idea and pressed it on Whedon.  He regretted it shortly after (probably when he got stabbed, looked painful).

Book was probably my least favorite character in the show.
I always detest characters like him.
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First episode of Firefly decided my hate of him, and it continued.
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2010, 08:48:18 PM »
What about Ron Glass's terrible acting?  Or Book's smarmy, fuzzy-wuzzy religiousity? 
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Re: Serenity
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2010, 09:18:35 PM »
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What about Ron Glass's terrible acting?  Or Book's smarmy, fuzzy-wuzzy religiousity? 
His acting was pretty mediocre.  It wasn't his religiousity that got on my nerves but his annoying the other characters and me for self defense.
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