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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: WLJ on May 28, 2022, 08:27:26 PM
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You can now encamp an RV for free indefinitely on public streets in Olympia, WA
The city will even take care of your sewage and provide port-a-potties and dumpsters
Watch the video :O
Olympia the first to permit free RV encampment parking on public street
https://www.q13fox.com/news/olympia-the-first-to-permit-free-rv-encampment-parking-on-public-street
If you can’t enforce the law – grant permission? Olympia, WA issues permits for free RV parking on public streets
https://twitchy.com/foundersgirl-313133/2022/05/28/if-you-cant-enforce-the-law-grant-permission-olympia-wa-issues-permits-for-free-rv-parking-on-public-street/
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So will there be a movement to eliminate property taxes, too?
Looks like this is another aspect of the income redistribution philosophy. <<<
E.g., I'll never understand why there are so many more Social Security/ Medicare/ Medicaid benefits if your zip code is 80212 (Denver) instead of 80401 (Golden).
Terry, "Income redistribution watchdog," 230RN
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I have never owned or rented an RV.
The permitted parkers can have their sewage tanks pumped out by the city once a month. There will be multiple port-a-potties and dumpsters along the road.
Is once a month often enough if you're living in the RV full-time?
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^ Who said any rational thinking was used in the decision?
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Are the RV's parking along public streets near parks and public buildings on in neighborhoods? Or both?
No system will work unless the enforce it strictly.
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I have never owned or rented an RV.
Is once a month often enough if you're living in the RV full-time?
No idea.
Let it drain, then drive to a new spot.
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What do you think will be the result of this?
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Maybe the RVs will relocate from Seattle to Olympia. Who am I kidding? Seattle will try to one-up them by enacting the most generous RV on public street legislation in the country.
Forgive my cynicism but I visited my old office in North Lake Union this past week. There had to have been 20 RVs taking up all of the street parking in front of the building. All of them were in poor shape, covered in graffiti, and surrounded by trash. Several of them had been tagged with Antifa symbols.
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There's a guy around here who shows up every so often in our neighborhood, then disappears. Apparently as long as he moves every 48h they can't do much. With the price of housing and property taxes around here it's hard for me to fault the guy too much. I could save a lot of money if I were single by doing the same thing.
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So will there be a movement to eliminate property taxes, too?
Looks like this is another aspect of the income redistribution philosophy. <<<
E.g., I'll never understand why there are so many more Social Security/ Medicare/ Medicaid benefits if your zip code is 80212 (Denver) instead of 80401 (Golden).
Terry, "Income redistribution watchdog," 230RN
My father in law, the only one of his siblings who made something of himself, had his brother and sister decide to leave California and move out here to SC. They stayed a few weeks then decided to move back to Cali because the welfare was much higher there than it is here.
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What do you think will be the result of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeskbiJjCXI
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Democrats - Turning America into a 3rd World *expletive deleted*it hole one city at a time
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Why do I suspect that there is going to be a LOT of sewage "spills" into storm water drains...
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Why do I suspect that there is going to be a LOT of sewage "spills" into storm water drains...
Hell they will probably just open the dump valves and let it flow on the street without bothering to dump right into the drains.
I’ve dealt with them coming into campsites, squatting on the sites or paying for one night and doing it.
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Hell they will probably just open the dump valves and let it flow on the street without bothering to dump right into the drains.
I’ve dealt with them coming into campsites, squatting on the sites or paying for one night and doing it.
Hmmmm, Smells like San Francisco
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Regarding "small town life."
If you live in the county seat, you're more likely to have welfare-dependent folks as your neighbors (or at least nearby). They go to where the "services" are.
Some of them will milk EVERYTHING possible too...
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Rusty vans, beat up pickups with camper shells, dilapidated old school busses . . . as long as they run most of the time (long enough to distance themselves from the effluent they just drained on the street) they'll be called "RVs" and will make their way to Olympia for the freebies.
"If you gift them, they will come."
Up next: Olympia voter registration drives for people living in RVs on Olympia's streets.
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So is there a class action suit for when everyone's property values tank? Or pool your neighbors and figure out how to force a buyout on the street. Private street!
If they park on a grade let the gas run for about ten minutes before you light it.
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there was a guy in Portland buying up rundown cheap rv's that do not have anything working, and renting them out to street people and actually making a profit.
it is not great to live like that, but I bet it beats the heck out of a tent or no shelter at all.
when I "lived" in my pickup truck I did my level best to stay far away from people, homes, neighborhoods .
I'm unusual in that demographic in that I do not drink or smoke or use any illegal or legal except tea and ibuprofen ....
imo there really needs to be some kind of place that someone who is working and cannot afford an apt can "camp" safely and legally.
govt exacerbates the problem with welfare and homeless shelters , people that really need to be in mental institutions and scammers/criminals live in so called "low income housing" and it is very difficult to be their neighbors if you have a job because they're always screaming/fighting and criminal activity - but often its all one can afford on a low budget.
The gov't puts the "no income" people there and they make life/sleeping impossible for working low income people
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Hell they will probably just open the dump valves and let it flow on the street without bothering to dump right into the drains.
I’ve dealt with them coming into campsites, squatting on the sites or paying for one night and doing it.
Good point.
Sounds like a premier program for San Francisco, then. They can use the liquid *expletive deleted*it in the holding tanks to wash the solid *expletive deleted*it and used needles off the streets.
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I have to wonder what the truck stops in the area are like... Most are just folks in the business, but I'd see a few folks every so often who appeared to be crashing for a few nights until they could get into a roof... I was in one at Daytona for a couple of days before the race, and that place turned into wall-to-wall affluent RV parking...
There was a camp near me set up on some railroad right-of-way... The railroad people do NOT like that, and have cleared it.
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In related news just up the road, Seattle says they will be going back to enforcing the 72 hour parking rule: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/homeless/seattle-to-increase-parking-enforcement-aimed-at-rv-dwellers/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1x7at3IgTtWIAUUBxwiZTMl39ri3xrWGN13gNDYh1SR6jIO1T1FnDBJD0#Echobox=1654011299
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Maybe it is preaching to the quire, but it seems to me they ought to look at their zoning and building permit rules to see about making it easier to build or modify structures into apartments. That might reduce the costs of housing. That might require changes at the state level.
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"Maybe it is preaching to the quire..."
Well look at Mech getting all Renaissance man on our asses...
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Maybe it is preaching to the quire, but it seems to me they ought to look at their zoning and building permit rules to see about making it easier to build or modify structures into apartments. That might reduce the costs of housing. That might require changes at the state level.
There is quite the ongoing debate for some time now on rezoning existing single-family neighborhoods to multi-family neighborhoods to provide for more affordable housing in Seattle. Suffice it to say that NIMBY seems to be the order of the day. If you own your nice $ 1.2 million Craftsman bungalow in Ballard, you don't want the house next door torn down for a three story 12 unit apartment.
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There is quite the ongoing debate for some time now on rezoning existing single-family neighborhoods to multi-family neighborhoods to provide for more affordable housing in Seattle. Suffice it to say that NIMBY seems to be the order of the day. If you own your nice $ 1.2 million Craftsman bungalow in Ballard, you don't want the house next door torn down for a three story 12 unit apartment.
I figure zoning affects it the other way in allowing apartments in areas zoned for industry and such. Either way, it does have an effect on the cost of housing simply because it restricts what people can do. Building permits and all the red tape associated with it are probably the biggest issue. Do they have a bunch of environmental impact issues with building there? It is not California, but it isn't far off.
There was a story I saw of a guy who was trying to renovate an old industrial building in San Francisco into a small apartment building. After 5 years he gave up on trying to get a building permit to do the work. I think a zoning issue was involved in that as well.
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"affordable housing" is newspeak for warehousing criminals,prostitutes,junkies, welfare scammers and mentally ill people in lower working class neighborhoods.
I like to call it "the homeless industrial complex" NGO's and charities and agencies get tax money and good salaries to perpetuate the problem.
If they solved it, they would be out of business
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There is quite the ongoing debate for some time now on rezoning existing single-family neighborhoods to multi-family neighborhoods to provide for more affordable housing in Seattle. Suffice it to say that NIMBY seems to be the order of the day. If you own your nice $ 1.2 million Craftsman bungalow in Ballard, you don't want the house next door torn down for a three story 12 unit apartment.
But Chicago had such a rousing success with the Cabrini-Green projects... and I bet fully woke and socialist Seattle would do even better.
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I don't agree with "affordable housing" or subsidized housing. I just figure there are ways governments could get out of the way and allow private housing to be built that could satisfy the need for less expensive housing. Some of that is on the permitting and construction side. Some of that is on the legal side such as allowing them to kick out people who don't pay their rent without excessive legal costs. I figure there are a lot of costs and liabilities that go into it that I don't know about. Half of them are probably forced on them by various laws/regulations and half are legal/insurance issues.
I haven't rented in many years, but I lived in an efficiency apartment that was not much more than one room. Do they still build those?
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Yeah. If a city needs affordable housing, just permit a lot more apartment buildings, and expand the city outward.
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I haven't rented in many years, but I lived in an efficiency apartment that was not much more than one room. Do they still build those?
Yes. In Seattle, 'apodments' are all the rage for the young single crowd in some parts of the city. https://www.apodment.com/