Want a new rifle, what to get...

[sanglant]

.45/120  something with a tang sight.

[kgbsquirrel]

http://www.shilohrifle.com/

 

[41magsnub]

http://www.shilohrifle.com/

 

I have 2 of their 1874 Sporter models - closest out of their current catalog, they are custom models made for the University of Montana for donors to the business school.

[Jamisjockey]

Eye relief isn't the issue for me, if the LOP is too short, I feel cramped.  I have relatively long arms.

Chris

Insert jokes about scabbed up knuckles here.

[charby]

So I was doing a little reading about .44 mag in a rifle, well it was kind of meh to me. 1800 fps with a 240g bullet in the Ruger carbine. Even the Hornady manual said it wouldn't be a suitable medium range hunting round.

Here is something else, why not get a modern in-line muzzle-loader? I have one and I love hunting deer hunting with it, I can hit a playing card all day long at 150 yards with it. I bought a CVA Optima (stainless and black) for $239 and topped with a Burris 2-7x35 scope on sale for $129. I shoot 100g of Blackhorn 209 and with a .45 Hornady sst in a Harvester Sabot at 2000 fps, I could get to 2300 fps with 20g more of powder but the recoil increases exponentially.

[mtnbkr]

So I was doing a little reading about .44 mag in a rifle, well it was kind of meh to me. 1800 fps with a 240g bullet in the Ruger carbine. Even the Hornady manual said it wouldn't be a suitable medium range hunting round.

Yeah, I started getting the same vibe.  I mean, my Redhawk slings a 300gr WFN at 1300fps, but the same load in a carbine does 1500ish.  That isn't much of an increase.  It'll make it shoot flatter and the rifle will be easier to shoot than the handgun, but it won't kill any better.

Here is something else, why not get a modern in-line muzzle-loader? I have one and I love hunting deer hunting with it, I can hit a playing card all day long at 150 yards with it. I bought a CVA Optima (stainless and black) for $239 and topped with a Burris 2-7x35 scope on sale for $129. I shoot 100g of Blackhorn 209 and with a .45 Hornady sst in a Harvester Sabot at 2000 fps, I could get to 2300 fps with 20g more of powder but the recoil increases exponentially.

I had a modern inline years ago (Remington 700ML w/4x scope).  I'm really not into them.  I didn't get any enjoyment out of shooting them (back then, the only range I could shoot it at was an hour away and had crappy hours), so I sold it.  These days, while the expanded hunting would be nice, I barely have time to full hunt the regular gun season. 

IIRC, I was shooting a 300gr 45cal saboted JHP with 100gr of Pyrodex pellets (2x50gr) and a standard cap (no shotgun primers).  It would hold about 2" at 100yds from the bench.  Nice gun, but just not something I'd shoot for fun.

Chris

[MechAg94]

A 44 mag rifle may not have a huge velocity increase, but I think I can place a 100 yard shot with my lever gun much easier than with a pistol.  Each to his own I guess. 

[RoadKingLarry]

I also have really long arms and fairly large hands, so that may have been my problem. My ape index is high at 1.087. http://www.ape-index.com/

When I get my Marlins, I'll need to get a big loop lever for them so my hand fits.

I'll just call you stumpy, mine came in at 1.113.

I do like the big loop lever look. "one of these days" I'd like to put big loops on my 1894C and my 336T. I've got a Henry .22 with the big loop and it just feels right. The Henry is also a darned accurate little rifle, I put a Weaver 1-3X-20 scope on it.

[mtnbkr]

A 44 mag rifle may not have a huge velocity increase, but I think I can place a 100 yard shot with my lever gun much easier than with a pistol.  Each to his own I guess. 

True, but I wasn't looking at the 44mag rifle for 100yd shots (which aren't common where I hunt).  I was looking more for a light, handy rifle for hunting thickets in the mountains.

Chris

[seeker_two]

Ain't never shot a thicket before....how do they taste?....

[kgbsquirrel]

Just found this in my email box...

Hello Mr KGBSquirrel,

Your order status is Shipped

SHTF50_MF    SHTF 50 Mag Fed Upper Conversion
Barrel Length 29 inch
Scope Rail Standard Low
Barrel Fluting

ACC_003    SHTF 50/R50 5 Round Magazine

..... woohoooo!!!!    

[Boomhauer]

I gotta say I've got a strange desire for a Thompson right now.

[birdman]

Just found this in my email box...


..... woohoooo!!!!    

You crazy mf.

I thought I was bad for picking up a TBAC can for my 338 :)

[kgbsquirrel]

You crazy mf.

I thought I was bad for picking up a TBAC can for my 338 :)

I've been a Sad Panda ever since I sold my HS.50 and Bohica a couple years back. I've finally made enough headway with other things that I was able to drop the coin on the SHTF upper.

I think I'll put my AN/PVS-4 on it. 

[roo_ster]

I've been a Sad Panda ever since I sold my HS.50 and Bohica a couple years back. I've finally made enough headway with other things that I was able to drop the coin on the SHTF upper.

I think I'll put my AN/PVS-4 on it. 

Gen I or Gen III rebuild?

If Gen III, did you note the difference in cost vs say, a Sagem Lutis or similar light thermal?

[kgbsquirrel]

Gen II.

MX-9644/U tube.