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MillCreek

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More government handouts to farmers
« on: July 24, 2019, 12:45:44 PM »
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Re: More government handouts to farmers
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2019, 01:18:23 PM »
Quote from: MillCreek on July 24, 2019, 12:45:44 PM
You would think the government would get out of this business and let the free market provide a solution to the issue of crop insurance.
Would I want the government to get out of meddling with the market?  Yes.
Would I think the government would get out of meddling with the market?  No.
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Re: More government handouts to farmers
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2019, 02:13:50 PM »
A change is something that would have to be phased in over time.

The way the system is set up now you just couldn't flip a switch and change the farmer/government dynamic.
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Re: More government handouts to farmers
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2019, 06:32:47 PM »
Years of government congress big Ag lobbyists created the current agricultural system.

Long and short of it, drop the programs, consumer food prices will rise.

It would be painful, but I would be in favor of the feds breaking up the large ag groups so that one company can not control more than than 10% of any commodity. Make it illegal for non US citizens to own more than 25 acres total in the US, zero land for foreign corporations. etc.

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Re: More government handouts to farmers
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2019, 07:12:27 PM »
One problem I see is that US farmers are competing in a global market where many of the big players receive substantial government subsidy.
I'm not sure how we can level that playing field.
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Re: More government handouts to farmers
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2019, 09:59:16 PM »
Quote from: charby on July 24, 2019, 06:32:47 PM
Years of government congress big Ag lobbyists created the current agricultural system.

Long and short of it, drop the programs, consumer food prices will rise.

It would be painful, but I would be in favor of the feds breaking up the large ag groups so that one company can not control more than than 10% of any commodity. Make it illegal for non US citizens to own more than 25 acres total in the US, zero land for foreign corporations. etc.


That might have far reaching consequences for all the corporations that moved overseas in past years.
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Re: More government handouts to farmers
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2019, 10:25:04 PM »
Quote from: charby on July 24, 2019, 06:32:47 PM

It would be painful, but I would be in favor of the feds breaking up the large ag groups so that one company can not control more than than 10% of any commodity. Make it illegal for non US citizens to own more than 25 acres total in the US, zero land for foreign corporations. etc.


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Re: More government handouts to farmers
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2019, 10:25:55 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 24, 2019, 09:59:16 PM
That might have far reaching consequences for all the corporations that moved overseas in past years.

Are you suggesting that might not be a good thing?
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Re: More government handouts to farmers
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2019, 09:51:55 AM »
New Zealand eliminated farm subsidies, which worked out very well in the end.

Farmers stopped producing things only because the gov subsidized them (like breeding excess sheep, and them slaughtering them to make fertilizer) and instead started producing things people wanted to buy.  They stopped growing on poor-quality land.

The ag sector (and its employment) is still huge in N. Zealand without subsidies!

https://www.dailysignal.com/2016/09/22/what-happened-when-new-zealand-got-rid-of-government-subsidies-for-farmers/
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