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Title: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: brimic on January 23, 2019, 09:39:24 AM
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/william-barrs-connection-to-ruby-ridge-defending-fbi-snipers/

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Barr was responsible for both the U.S. Marshals Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, two federal agencies whose misconduct at Ruby Ridge “helped to weaken the bond of trust that must exist between ordinary Americans and our law enforcement agencies,” according to a 1995 Senate Judiciary Committee report.
Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: brimic on January 23, 2019, 09:42:36 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1995/09/22/ex-justice-official-says-fbi-knew-earlier-of-teens-death/a047daa6-fde8-41cd-83e6-624ead718b42/?utm_term=.67c07f8b8335
Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: Ron on January 23, 2019, 09:58:37 AM
Trump hires people to do a specific job.

Almost everyone he has used is from inside the swamp.

He will be forgiven he makes progress on building the wall, draining the swamp/locking her up, implementing America first trade policies and getting our military out of the Middle East.

He needs some big wins in the next year or two if he wants to get elected.

Many folks didn’t come out in the mid terms. Maybe all the swamp creatures in his cabinet, no wall, no arrests and our still being in all the same Middle East conflicts had a depressing effect on turnout.

He’s done great in other areas but most of his signature policy pushes have gone nowhere.

Meanwhile the swamp is pick pick picking away.

Hopefully this swamp creature has a specific role to fulfill then will be fired.

Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: Pb on January 24, 2019, 09:15:06 AM
Disgusting.

I e-mailed the white house about it, not that it would do any good.
Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 24, 2019, 09:20:25 AM
Trump hires people to do a specific job.

Almost everyone he has used is from inside the swamp.

He will be forgiven he makes progress on building the wall, draining the swamp/locking her up, implementing America first trade policies and getting our military out of the Middle East.

He needs some big wins in the next year or two if he wants to get elected.

Many folks didn’t come out in the mid terms. Maybe all the swamp creatures in his cabinet, no wall, no arrests and our still being in all the same Middle East conflicts had a depressing effect on turnout.

He’s done great in other areas but most of his signature policy pushes have gone nowhere.

Meanwhile the swamp is pick pick picking away.

Hopefully this swamp creature has a specific role to fulfill then will be fired.



Dude.  Stop bogarting.  Whatever you're smoking must be *expletive deleted*ing terrific and I want some.
Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: brimic on January 24, 2019, 09:27:10 AM
Trump was fun for awhile, but when he puts people who have a hardon for confiscating property or sniping Americans for paperwork ‘crimes’ in the AG office, he’s lost my support.
Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: Ron on January 24, 2019, 09:41:01 AM
Trump was fun for awhile, but when he puts people who have a hardon for confiscating property or sniping Americans for paperwork ‘crimes’ in the AG office, he’s lost my support.

Nothing about Trump makes any sense.

Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 24, 2019, 09:48:26 AM
Nothing about Trump makes any sense.



Plenty makes sense.  While he had a clear idea of many things he wanted to accomplish as president, he was woefully unprepared for the differences between running a company or the country.  For instance, his insistence on firing anyone that isn't a "yes man".  He expects everyone to get in line and be completely loyal.  Disagreement is met with loathing.  A true patriot should welcome disagreement even from top advisors as a way of keeping one's self in check.
Of course, his style of absolutism in leadership might explain how he's had so many major businesses go tits up.
 
Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: MechAg94 on January 24, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
Plenty makes sense.  While he had a clear idea of many things he wanted to accomplish as president, he was woefully unprepared for the differences between running a company or the country.  For instance, his insistence on firing anyone that isn't a "yes man".  He expects everyone to get in line and be completely loyal.  Disagreement is met with loathing.  A true patriot should welcome disagreement even from top advisors as a way of keeping one's self in check.
Of course, his style of absolutism in leadership might explain how he's had so many major businesses go tits up.
 
Is that what is happening or is that just the liberal media talking point ?  How do you know? 
Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: brimic on January 24, 2019, 10:40:59 AM
Plenty makes sense.  While he had a clear idea of many things he wanted to accomplish as president, he was woefully unprepared for the differences between running a company or the country.  For instance, his insistence on firing anyone that isn't a "yes man".  He expects everyone to get in line and be completely loyal.  Disagreement is met with loathing.  A true patriot should welcome disagreement even from top advisors as a way of keeping one's self in check.
Of course, his style of absolutism in leadership might explain how he's had so many major businesses go tits up.
 

Most of them have been resignations... He's hired a lot of big names with big egos who are used to getting their way with everything.
Hiring 'yes men' is not one of Trump's faults. I've listened to a few local talk radio interviews with Reince Preibus, who made this very clear.
Hiring 'Yes men' is a hallmark of weak presidents, Obama for example.
I have real issues with his nominating people like Sessions and especially Barr, both of which have no moral objections toward the federal government steamrolling over Americans' rights.
Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: Ron on January 24, 2019, 11:19:06 AM
I agree with those guys ^

Trump is not the buffoon he is made out to be, he is a media creation of his own making. He has crafted a wwf wrestling public personality for his own reasons.

That doesn’t mean I believe everything he does is 4 dimensional chess though.

His rhetoric and propaganda speaks to a lot of my biases and ideology.

A lot of what he does seemingly contradicts his stated goals.

On the other hand he has some solid accomplishments and appears to be really trying to get the border situation handled.

If nothing else he has earned some benefit of the doubt.


Title: Re: Trump's AG pick was part of Ruby Ridge debacle
Post by: gunsmith on January 25, 2019, 12:11:04 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1995/09/22/ex-justice-official-says-fbi-knew-earlier-of-teens-death/a047daa6-fde8-41cd-83e6-624ead718b42/?utm_term=.67c07f8b8335

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