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Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« on: August 22, 2008, 11:40:00 AM »
http://www.wnbc.com/news/17266645/detail.html
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Predator Drone On L.I. Sparks Terror Investigation
Investigators said the drone was being designed to carry 600 pounds of explosives

POSTED: 1:36 pm EDT August 22, 2008
UPDATED: 4:09 pm EDT August 22, 2008


NEW YORK -- By Jonathan Dienst

A predator drone being built by an engineer on Long Island sparked a large counter-terrorism investigation across the New York area, officials tell WNBC.com. Police said they had stumbled upon overnight testing of the drone at a little-used airstrip in Calverton, Long Island.

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NYPD officials worked with Suffolk County police and the FBI to determine there were no ties to terror. Under questioning, the engineer said he was an inventor hoping to sell this drone model to the U.S. military. NYPD Lieutenant William McGroarty said during the investigation they had other questions.

"What if this individual could not sell to the military? McGroarty asked. Would he then turn and sell it to the highest bidder?"

The military uses unmanned aircraft in Iraq and Afghanistan. But security officials worry about terrorists acquiring them. Earlier this year, Homeland Security officials issued a general bulletin warning they could be used "as an improvised explosive device.

In this case, police said there is no evidence any laws were broken as the drone was tested on the ground. Officials said if it had gone into the air without prior FAA approval, it could have been considered a crime.

While there are no terror links, police said their investigation continues. The engineer, who News 4 New York will not name because he was not charged, did not respond to numerous requests for comment. His drone project has now been taken over by a Maryland-based company that has registered with the FAA, officials said. One investigator said the engineer, at best, had showed poor judgment in trying to do the project in a manner that raised so many alarms.

After repeated requests for information about this investigation, law enforcement agencies agreed to talk about the case to highlight the city's "Operation Sentry." This NYPD program enables city and suburban police to better share threat information. Officials said the drone investigation is one recent example of how Suffolk County police officials quickly engaged the NYPD's counter-terrorism division to help investigate the report of a predator drone sighting.

"Regional cooperation is the order of the day. Law enforcement gets it and is communicating more than ever before," Kelly said.


So basically he was building a big RC model airplane and "they" wigged out???
So how big does a RC model have to be before you have to get permission from the FAA to fly it?
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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 11:53:15 AM »
Hmm... I wonder what FAA form I need to file to legally fly my home made cruise missile...

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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2008, 11:53:37 AM »
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So how big does a RC model have to be before you have to get permission from the FAA to fly it?
As big or little as Skeletor decides it must be...

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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2008, 09:04:49 PM »
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The engineer, who News 4 New York will not name because he was not charged,

Either they have the finest ethics of any local news in the last 50 years, or they couldn't learn his name. Wink

Actually, I'll go with the first, because how many cops are there who can't resist talking to the media as "anonymous sources"?
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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 07:32:12 AM »
Don't you also have to get FAA approval to shoot a model rocket so high into the air?
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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 08:34:48 AM »
 So what IS the highest bid at the moment?  grin
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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 08:42:07 AM »
Don't you also have to get FAA approval to shoot a model rocket so high into the air?

It's actually engine impulse rating (H and above) and/or weight.  Section FAR 101.
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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 01:41:10 PM »
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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 02:58:07 PM »
Don't you also have to get FAA approval to shoot a model rocket so high into the air?

I'm sure if you lobbed a missile into Manhattan or DC, the FAA would be all over you about it. Probably some hefty fines.  laugh
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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 10:40:32 PM »

Heck, allegedly the US government leaned very heavily on New Zealand when one of its citizens did independent work on a pulsejet engine design.

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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2008, 03:30:00 AM »
Don't you also have to get FAA approval to shoot a model rocket so high into the air?

I'm sure if you lobbed a missile into Manhattan or DC, the FAA would be all over you about it. Probably some hefty fines.  laugh

I don't think the FAA would be the first on-scene at your launch site in that case.....and FAA fines would be the least of your immediate worries....
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Re: Civilian "predator drones" being built in L.I??
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2008, 03:37:19 AM »
Yea, think more along the lines of that butthole remover we saw a few threads ago.  laugh
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