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When not to hit someone with a taser...
« on: July 20, 2009, 06:31:15 PM »
when they've been huffing gasoline...

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"A man has burst into flames after being shot by a police Taser in Western Australia.

Police say they were trying to arrest the man for petrol sniffing at the Goldfields Aboriginal community of Warburton yesterday when he threatened them with a container of fuel and a cigarette lighter.

They say he ignored repeated requests to stop and was shot with the Taser, catching fire and suffering third degree burns to 10 per cent of his body.

Senior police say an investigation will determine if the Taser or the cigarette lighter is responsible for setting the man on fire."
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 07:11:23 PM »
I dunno, sounds to me like the perfect time to taser someone.  =)
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 07:28:30 PM »
Petrol sniffing is a crime now?
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2009, 07:31:01 PM »
its part of the plan for oppression
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2009, 07:39:29 PM »
Petrol sniffing is a crime now?

MicroBalrog, in Ohio it is. 

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2925

From above site:
(I) “Harmful intoxicant” does not include beer or intoxicating liquor but means any of the following:

(1) Any compound, mixture, preparation, or substance the gas, fumes, or vapor of which when inhaled can induce intoxication, excitement, giddiness, irrational behavior, depression, stupefaction, paralysis, unconsciousness, asphyxiation, or other harmful physiological effects, and includes, but is not limited to, any of the following:

(a) Any volatile organic solvent, plastic cement, model cement, fingernail polish remover, lacquer thinner, cleaning fluid, gasoline, or other preparation containing a volatile organic solvent;

(b) Any aerosol propellant;

(c) Any fluorocarbon refrigerant;

(d) Any anesthetic gas.

(2) Gamma Butyrolactone;

(3) 1,4 Butanediol.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2009, 07:41:24 PM »
its part of the plan for oppression

I wouldn't say it counts as a plan when they've already implemented it.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2009, 07:43:40 PM »
heck i'm inclined to agree with mb  i think huffing is just accelerated darwinism   damn shame these fools always seem to have kids though
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2009, 07:46:16 PM »
Darwin was wrong.  I deal with people all day.  Theres no way he was right and all these people live.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2009, 11:00:50 PM »
Natural selection has been thwarted by "civilized society". Society protects the terminally stupid and allows them to procreate thus passing on their "stupid gene" and fouling the gene pool.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2009, 11:09:54 PM »
I'd highly recommend the aussie film "Samson & Delilah" for a look into the communities where this is happening.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2009, 03:16:37 AM »
Rumor on the law enforcement front is that OC propellants are flammable, and that suspects who have been sprayed then shocked have gone FWUP.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2009, 08:49:29 AM »
Rumor on the law enforcement front is that OC propellants are flammable, and that suspects who have been sprayed then shocked have gone FWUP.

We will soon be issued Tasers, however we must completely do away with OC spray. Apparently there is some truth to this.

I think the Taser is better than OC.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2009, 10:48:48 AM »
You think a taser would be better for the situation your troops faced in that alley where they were gang rushed and had to put up an OC cloud to keep them away?
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2009, 11:11:08 AM »
You think a taser would be better for the situation your troops faced in that alley where they were gang rushed and had to put up an OC cloud to keep them away?
I would think that is what high capacity magazines are for. 

Maybe they should have sprayed him with fire extinguishers instead.  Or maybe just hit him with the fire extinguishers.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2009, 11:48:48 AM »
You think a taser would be better for the situation your troops faced in that alley where they were gang rushed and had to put up an OC cloud to keep them away?

Bad deal all around...no perfect solution.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2009, 11:51:53 AM »
I would think that is what high capacity magazines are for. 

Maybe they should have sprayed him with fire extinguishers instead.  Or maybe just hit him with the fire extinguishers.

Or maybe just let him get on with killing his own brain cells without being molested by taser-wielding types. 
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2009, 01:53:24 PM »
Bad deal all around...no perfect solution.


I'd think that OC was the best of all possible solutions given what was transpiring.

A full magazine would have made a bad situation a LOT worse.

On the other had, it probalby would have led to a lot of urban redevelopment grants being levied...
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2009, 02:48:18 PM »
Bad deal all around...no perfect solution.
Few things are perfect.  However, there are varying degrees of suck.

One shot tazer, OC cloud.  If I'm gang rushed, the hell if I want one shot from a taser.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2009, 03:04:46 PM »
Rumor on the law enforcement front is that OC propellants are flammable, and that suspects who have been sprayed then shocked have gone FWUP.
Some are.  The safety video my buddy watched before he got sprayed showed that some brands look like WD40 when an ignition source is applied.  The First Defense (the company that put out the "safety" commercial) product he carries supposedly is not flammable.

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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2009, 04:19:17 PM »
Or maybe just let him get on with killing his own brain cells without being molested by taser-wielding types. 

That is not a politically-viable option. In the current political climate, we need to work with what we've got, JFRuser: which means the only viable choices are OC, batons, tazers, and - if you're feeling particularly libertarian - beating people up with fire extinguishers. The notion that maybe him killing his own brain cells was his own business is immature and extremist, so stop bringing it up already.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2009, 07:49:47 PM »
if he could do it without making a mess it would be no problem. but they can't  so its our problem
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2009, 07:52:01 PM »
if he could do it without making a mess it would be no problem. but they can't  so its our problem

So many things this could apply to.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2009, 08:05:45 PM »
yup  shame folks make a mess
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2009, 08:14:21 PM »
"It's not about the other guys, it's about you."

I've seen plenty of guys who did glue, gas, and other unpleasantries back when I was much once younger. The only mess most of them did was of their own lives. And their own lives were their own.
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Re: When not to hit someone with a taser...
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2009, 08:25:20 PM »
The only mess most of them did was of their own lives. And their own lives were their own.


you weren't looking hard enough. those folks end up requiring a lotta care . and sadly they breed. i pity the kids
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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