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Title: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 11:29:48 AM
Shooting at a HS in Perry, Iowa.
Reported multiple victims
Shooter has reportedly been ID. No word on condition
Shooting reportedly started before school started

Developing story

Multiple victims in Perry, Iowa, high school shooting, sheriff says
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/perry-high-school-shooting-iowa-01-04-24/index.html

Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 11:31:36 AM
Oh and "Biden is tracking Perry shooting"
You know what that means
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 11:38:41 AM
Shooter has reportedly been ID. No word on condition

Decreased
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: HankB on January 04, 2024, 12:12:21 PM
Oh and "Biden is tracking Perry shooting"
You know what that means
Punishing tens of millions of people who had nothing to do with the madman's actions?
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on January 04, 2024, 12:12:37 PM
Same day as Epstein list reveal.  I'm shocked. [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 12:15:11 PM
Oh and "Biden is tracking Perry shooting"
You know what that means

Punishing tens of millions of people who had nothing to do with the madman's actions?

I was thinking more along the lines of the usual knee-jerk reaction of calling for a assault weapons ban but what you said as well.
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on January 04, 2024, 01:19:02 PM
Same day as Epstein list reveal.  I'm shocked. [tinfoil]

Can't find it right now, but there's a meme (babylonbee material I believe) about scientists being worried about running out of conspiracy theories if they keep coming true.   While I understand correlation ≠ causation, the "coincidences" sure do keep stacking up....
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 01:54:32 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of the usual knee-jerk reaction of calling for a assault weapons ban but what you said as well.

And here you go

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Jean-Pierre also urged Congress to act in the wake of this school shooting, saying that “we cannot allow these tragedies to continue.”

    "Congress must act to enact universal background checks, ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, (and) require safe storage of firearms," she said, adding that "the gun industry's immunity from liability" must stop and a national "red flag" law should be passed.
    "We cannot allow these tragedies to continue," Jean-Pierre said.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/perry-high-school-shooting-iowa-01-04-24/index.html
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 01:59:00 PM
Kind of weird no numbers yet and they're still saying multiple which could mean two and maybe two doesn't pull on the gun ban strings enough.
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 02:20:01 PM
Got to go to an overseas site for info again
Apparently he had this planned, posted a photo of himself on TikTok (surprise) in the restroom just before the shooting

Suspected Iowa school shooter Dylan Butler - who injured three people including the principal - before turning the gun on himself
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12927213/Suspected-Iowa-school-shooter-Butler.html
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 02:35:30 PM
Oh gee, maybe this is why the US media is unusually quiet, maybe, it's the internet so take with an internet size grain of salt

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    The mass shooter at Perry High has been identified as Dylan Butler

    It appears that the shooter was an online LGBTQ activist & part of the community

    Watch the story disappear in 3.. 2.. 1..
pic.twitter.com/loVfxgsfGI
    — End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) January 4, 2024[/quote]

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/04/perry-high-school-shooter-another-trans-kid-n2391398
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: lee n. field on January 04, 2024, 03:06:29 PM
So, watch for his manifesto.  And he social media will by now be scrubbed.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=Dylan%20Butler (https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=Dylan%20Butler)

Second in the list right now:

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Shelly Wolfe
  ·
DYLAN BUTLER (AKA COLBY BUTLER) WAS THE SHOOTER TODAY AT THE SCHOOL SHOOTING IN IOWA.
GUESS WHAT.
A *expletive deleted*ing TRUMP SUPPORTER.
(On his Reddit he put Trump 20/20)
NOT SURPRISED AT ALL...
HE WAS A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER....

(Let's just say I kind of doubt that. 
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 03:20:49 PM
So, watch for his manifesto.  And he social media will by now be scrubbed.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=Dylan%20Butler (https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=Dylan%20Butler)

Second in the list right now:

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Shelly Wolfe
  ·
DYLAN BUTLER (AKA COLBY BUTLER) WAS THE SHOOTER TODAY AT THE SCHOOL SHOOTING IN IOWA.
GUESS WHAT.
A *expletive deleted*ing TRUMP SUPPORTER.
(On his Reddit he put Trump 20/20)
NOT SURPRISED AT ALL...
HE WAS A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER....

(Let's just say I kind of doubt that.

"HE WAS A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER...."

Everyone else is reporting he was a student at the school. So facebook :facepalm:
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 04:44:18 PM
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/perry-high-school-shooting-iowa-01-04-24/index.html
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Perry High School shooter was a 17-year-old student, official says

Officials have identified the person who opened fire at Perry High School as 17-year-old Dylan Butler, a student at the school.

Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation Assistant Director Mitch Mortvedt said the shooter was armed with a pump action shotgun and a small caliber handgun.

He said the shooter made several social media posts in and around the time of the shooting.

At least one person was killed and five others were injured, he said. The shooter died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, Mortvedt said.

The person killed was a six grader at the school's middle school

And as it turns out he brought a bomb

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Police officers located "an improvised explosive device" inside Perry High School in Iowa while undergoing a search of the building following the shooting, according to Assistant Director Mitch Mortvedt of the Division of Criminal Investigation.

Iowa's state fire marshal and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms "rendered the device safe," he said during a Thursday news conference.

So a shotgun, handgun, and a bomb. We really need to ban "assault weapons"
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 08:24:29 PM
According to CNN there have been at least 4 mass shootings in the US this year.
They based this on data from Gun Violence Archive. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 04, 2024, 08:26:41 PM
So a shotgun, handgun, and a bomb. We really need to ban "assault weapons"

Didn't you hear? "Gun safety" researchers have recently revealed that AR-15 assault rifles blow people up. So that bomb may as well have been an assault rifle.

The blast effect: How bullets from an AR-15 blow the body apart (https://torontosun.com/news/world/the-blast-effect-how-bullets-from-an-ar-15-blow-the-body-apart)
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 08:35:49 PM
Didn't you hear? "Gun safety" researchers have recently revealed that AR-15 assault rifles blow people up. So that bomb may as well have been an assault rifle.

The blast effect: How bullets from an AR-15 blow the body apart (https://torontosun.com/news/world/the-blast-effect-how-bullets-from-an-ar-15-blow-the-body-apart)

And at the very top they show the Nashville shooter with a Kel-Tec Sub 2000   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 04, 2024, 08:54:46 PM
And at the very top they show the Nashville shooter with a Kel-Tec Sub 2000   :facepalm:

Not Kyle Rittenhouse?
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 04, 2024, 09:07:04 PM
Not Kyle Rittenhouse?

Funny that in an article about how the AR-15 blows bodies apart they show this

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This handout video grab image courtesy of the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department released on Monday, March 27, 2023, shows suspect Audrey Hale holding an assault rifle at the Covenant School building at the Covenant Presbyterian Church, in Nashville, Tennessee. Photo by Metropolitan Nashville Police Dept. / AFP /Getty Images
(https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/torontosun/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Audrey-Hale-Mar27-scaled-e1680010676954.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1128&h=846&type=webp&sig=auORHEf-bcw83dtUMSSTgg)
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 04, 2024, 09:17:08 PM
Same day as Epstein list reveal.  I'm shocked. [tinfoil]

I'm certain it's only a coincidence. (Again)
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 05, 2024, 10:31:01 AM
Some saying this was over bullying of both him and his sister the school ignored

Iowa school shooter plotted massacre after he and his sister suffered horrific bullying - with teachers ignoring their torment, classmates say
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12929031/iowa-perry-high-school-shooting-dylan-butler-bullied.html
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: zxcvbob on January 05, 2024, 12:53:25 PM
Some saying this was over bullying of both him and his sister the school ignored

Iowa school shooter plotted massacre after he and his sister suffered horrific bullying - with teachers ignoring their torment, classmates say
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12929031/iowa-perry-high-school-shooting-dylan-butler-bullied.html

The bullying claim is easy to believe.  The school and the bullies are often on the same team; I'm not sure what the school gets out of the deal, more docile and compliant students (the ones being harassed) maybe.
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: lee n. field on January 05, 2024, 06:26:17 PM
Some saying this was over bullying of both him and his sister the school ignored

Iowa school shooter plotted massacre after he and his sister suffered horrific bullying - with teachers ignoring their torment, classmates say
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12929031/iowa-perry-high-school-shooting-dylan-butler-bullied.html

Which I have no trouble, at all, believing. 

School admin wants quiet.
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: JTHunter on January 05, 2024, 10:47:58 PM
One report on the radio today indicated that the shooter was "trans".  The show's host also pointed out how many of these shootings have been done by trans and hinted that it was time to start considering that "being trans" may be a sign of a mental imbalance.
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 05, 2024, 11:14:51 PM
One report on the radio today indicated that the shooter was "trans".  The show's host also pointed out how many of these shootings have been done by trans and hinted that it was time to start considering that

Yes, we've been discussing that previously in this thread.


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..."being trans" may be a sign of a mental imbalance.

It's certainly more than that. It's beyond strange that wanting to mutilate or excise healthy parts of the body, in favor of kludged, make-shift imitations of opposite-sex body parts is not seen as an obvious form of self-harm.
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 05, 2024, 11:43:55 PM
Still haven't seen anything that convinces me one way or another what he was in that regard. Just because someone post something in support of trans doesn't necessarily mean they're trans themselves. Maybe he was maybe he wasn't. Have to wait and see if more comes out but I suspect the media is going to tight lipped on the matter.
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: WLJ on January 08, 2024, 07:36:05 PM

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    BREAKING: The FBI was warned about the trans Iowa shooter before the shooting. He had been posting disturbing messages on Discord and someone reported it to the FBI. The FBI never responded.

    As I reported, 2 years ago he was already posting alarming messages about being a school… pic.twitter.com/4InYrGh4id
    — Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2024
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/01/08/lott-fbi-iowa-shooter-n2391518
Title: Re: Perry, Iowa, high school shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 08, 2024, 09:51:36 PM
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    BREAKING: The FBI was warned about the trans Iowa shooter before the shooting. He had been posting disturbing messages on Discord and someone reported it to the FBI. The FBI never responded.

    As I reported, 2 years ago he was already posting alarming messages about being a school… pic.twitter.com/4InYrGh4id
    — Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2024

It's obviously Trump's fault.