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Obama's Car Problem
« on: March 20, 2013, 11:25:54 AM »
Obama's in Israel . . . and someone mistakenly filled his limo ("The Beast") with diesel instead of gasoline.

Oops.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/20/obama-limousine-jordan-diesel-petrol

Backup limo is on its way from Jordan.

Hey, Obama - call a taxi! Or maybe you can ride around in a tank the way Dukakis did - make for a great photo op, eh?
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2013, 11:29:29 AM »
That's because the rest of the world knows better than to put a gasoline motor in that big of a car.
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2013, 11:30:42 AM »
Aren't the fill tubes different diameters between diesel and unleaded?


(I say this because I know they are different sizes between "regular" and "unleaded" back in that awkward 1994 era when "regular" was being phased out but standardization in labeling was not yet in place and "regular" could mean leaded in some places and mean 87 octane unleaded in other places... I put about 5 gallons of leaded gas in my parents' car when I was 16 and it needed a ring job about a week later.  Was very confused why the "regular" unleaded gas hose wouldn't fit in the car's gas port.)
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2013, 12:08:47 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on March 20, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
Aren't the fill tubes different diameters between diesel and unleaded?


(I say this because I know they are different sizes between "regular" and "unleaded" back in that awkward 1994 era when "regular" was being phased out but standardization in labeling was not yet in place and "regular" could mean leaded in some places and mean 87 octane unleaded in other places... I put about 5 gallons of leaded gas in my parents' car when I was 16 and it needed a ring job about a week later.  Was very confused why the "regular" unleaded gas hose wouldn't fit in the car's gas port.)

Leaded gas shouldn't hurt the engine, but would ruin the catalyctic convertor instead  =|
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 12:11:20 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on March 20, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
Leaded gas shouldn't hurt the engine, but would ruin the catalyctic convertor instead  =|

Yes that was the problem, plus by 1990 the lead was very very very low in regular gas. I don't see the correlation with the engine needed new piston rings, that is usually a wear problem.
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2013, 12:15:10 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on March 20, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
Aren't the fill tubes different diameters between diesel and unleaded?

In the US at least, the diesel tubes are larger.
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2013, 12:26:19 PM »
Buddy of mine did the opposite in iraq once. Filled a HMMWV up with regular gas. Luckily they caught it before he fired it up (or tried. Not sure what would happen)

took it to the motor pool by towbar and drained it all out
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 12:26:39 PM »
Quote from: HankB on March 20, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
Obama's in Israel . . . and someone mistakenly filled his limo ("The Beast") with diesel instead of gasoline.

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I doubt that it was a mistake  >:D
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 01:30:57 PM »
The limo Reagan has built was a turbodiesel.
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2013, 01:44:44 PM »
I was under the impression that the presidential limo is really a car/limo body on a heavy truck frame to accomodate the heavy armor and still have speed and more reliability than an uparmored limo on a car frame. Im guessing its diesel powered and was accidently filled with gasoline.
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2013, 02:24:54 PM »
Quote from: roo_ster on March 20, 2013, 01:30:57 PM
The limo Reagan has built was a turbodiesel.
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 02:29:59 PM »
Quote from: mtnbkr on March 20, 2013, 02:24:54 PM
Zombie Reagan?

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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 04:10:21 PM »
Isn't deisel what's left after you are finished refining off all the other petroleum products?

Or is that petrolatum (petroleum jelly).

Either way, seems the Oil-Rich could be sending a message.

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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 07:56:40 PM »
Quote from: vaskidmark on March 20, 2013, 04:10:21 PM
Isn't deisel what's left after you are finished refining off all the other petroleum products?

Or is that petrolatum (petroleum jelly).

Either way, seems the Oil-Rich could be sending a message.

stay safe.

IIRC, it's Bunker Charlie (what ships use), when it's not powering ships they smear it on the ground to make roads. 


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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 08:22:56 PM »
Diesel nozzles are not always bigger.
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 09:31:44 PM »
But diesel is just so icky and dirty.... :facepalm:
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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2013, 10:31:25 PM »
Bass-Ackwards.

The "Beast" is powered by a 6.5L diesel engine.

They're now reporting it had the correct fuel, but still suffered a breakdown. 

Odd that it'd go to a local garage for repairs, vs. getting put back on the C-5 or C-17 it arrived in...
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 05:20:53 AM »
Quote from: Gewehr98 on March 20, 2013, 10:31:25 PM
Bass-Ackwards.

The "Beast" is powered by a 6.5L diesel engine.

They're now reporting it had the correct fuel, but still suffered a breakdown. 

Odd that it'd go to a local garage for repairs, vs. getting put back on the C-5 or C-17 it arrived in...

If "The Beast" suffered a breakdown, there are plenty of good psychiatrists/analysts locally - no need to fly it home.

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Re: Obama's Car Problem
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2013, 06:53:32 AM »
When you try to make an armored diesel truck look like a luxury car you repeatedly run into problems.

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