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Title: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Desertdog on January 30, 2009, 07:32:37 PM
I hope that 'in with the new' will do something to urge the majority of Conservative voters to vote in the next election.  We still need Conservative people to run in all election districts.

Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Former Maryland Lt. Governor to be first African-American chair
Associated Press
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28914110/

WASHINGTON - Michael Steele was elected Republican National Committee chairman on Friday, defeating the incumbent party chief and three other challengers over six rounds of voting to become the first black to lead the GOP.

The former Maryland lieutenant governor takes over a beleaguered GOP as Republicans seek to rebound from back-to-back defeats in national elections that gave Democrats control of Congress and the White House.

"As a little boy growing up in this town, this is awesome," said Steele, the most moderate candidate in the field and considered an outsider because he's not a committee member.

In a brief acceptance speech, the new GOP chairman struck a tone of inclusiveness.

"We're going to say to friend and foe alike: We want you to be a part of us, we want you to with be with us, and for those who wish to obstruct, get ready to get knocked over," Steele said.

He won 91 votes out of a possible 168 in the sixth round. A simple majority of 85 was needed, but it took six rounds for Steele to win
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Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: seeker_two on January 30, 2009, 07:41:05 PM
Borrowed from another thread.....

It just got worse.  Michael "you don't need an assault weapon to go hunting" Steele is the new RNC chairman.



The one who was proud that he owned zero guns?

Oh, f... :P

I'm pretty sure we've just seen the final nail driven into the GOP coffin......how are the Libertarians holding up?....  =(
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Balog on January 30, 2009, 07:51:28 PM
Republican National Committee: "we ran the most liberal person with an R in front of their name we could, and we STILL lost! Uh, ummm, well.... let's try a black guy."

Idiots....
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 30, 2009, 07:57:38 PM
D-dog, did you just quote a source, without attribution?   :|
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Desertdog on January 30, 2009, 08:05:23 PM
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D-dog, did you just quote a source, without attribution?
It was an Associated Press release but it did't copy.

URL put in place, also. 
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 30, 2009, 08:07:44 PM
hes allowed to not own guns and be proud of it.  the 2nd amendmant doesn't require you to it allows you to
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Balog on January 30, 2009, 08:12:18 PM
He's allowed to. Doesn't bode well for us tho.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Josh Aston on January 30, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
Wait a minute, he's not a committee member, but they elected to lead the committee?  What the hell is that all about?
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on January 30, 2009, 09:47:18 PM
It was an Associated Press release but it did't copy.

URL put in place, also. 
What? No APA citation? Heads will roll! :police:
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Boomhauer on January 30, 2009, 09:53:38 PM
Wait a minute, he's not a committee member, but they elected to lead the committee?  What the hell is that all about?

They needed a Black Dude because the other side had a Black Dude, and look where it got them!



Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: txgho1911 on January 30, 2009, 09:58:32 PM
And WHO IS JOHN GALT?
Consider that a most vile proclamation?

So as a constant stream of the inane policy and legislation is gearing up in DC for the biggest run on the window of opportunity. Obomitron has 2 years to make his utopia and then two more to prove it.
Who is Steele, what has he done, what does he say that he wants. Wishing and hoping he has some kind of conservative bone or hair to validate him will not change the fact of where he came from. Maybe send the Nuge to council him. Take him hunting. With Cheney.

A search on michael steele maryland
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=michael+steele+maryland&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: nico on January 30, 2009, 10:16:23 PM
You know, I've heard plenty of interviews with Steele, and I voted for him for Senate.  He always struck me as a decent guy who was reasonably straightforward on where he stood on issues.  That said, he's a bad pick for RNC chair.  I'm 25 and have held my nose and voted Republican for every election I've voted in.  If they move any farther to the left, I'm not holding my nose anymore. :mad:
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: txgho1911 on January 30, 2009, 10:31:06 PM
Someone wrote about him claiming a Reagan roll model.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17295
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 31, 2009, 12:58:25 AM
Yeah, nobody rolled like Reagan.   :lol: =|
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Manedwolf on January 31, 2009, 04:59:32 AM
hes allowed to not own guns and be proud of it.  the 2nd amendmant doesn't require you to it allows you to

He helped rule a state that didn't allow the peasants to. And did not try to change that fact, he was content that he was a special sort that enjoyed the right denied to the common people...
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Standing Wolf on January 31, 2009, 05:05:46 AM
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"As a little boy growing up in this town, this is awesome," said Steele, the most moderate candidate in the field...

MSNBC so-called "moderate" Republicans get—and deserve—no respect whatever. Not so very long ago, the editors of the New York Times couldn't praise McCain highly enough. He was their kind of RINO, all right.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: nico on January 31, 2009, 07:39:12 AM
He helped rule a state that didn't allow the peasants to. And did not try to change that fact, he was content that he was a special sort that enjoyed the right denied to the common people...

umm, you can own guns in maryland.  I wish their administration had been more pro-gun, but it's not like they could have gotten any pro-gun legislation passed here anyway.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 31, 2009, 08:04:44 AM
Borrowed from another thread.....

I'm pretty sure we've just seen the final nail driven into the GOP coffin......how are the Libertarians holding up?....  =(


Come on over to the dark side......


Of course if the LP itself had half a brain, now would be the time to strike.  The GOP is on its death bed.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 31, 2009, 08:12:21 AM
http://www.lp.org/
We don't all wear wookie suits, I promise....
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: seeker_two on January 31, 2009, 09:24:06 AM
JJ: after reading this article, I may consider it....

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2009/01/steele_elected_rnc_chair.html?nav=rss_email/components (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2009/01/steele_elected_rnc_chair.html?nav=rss_email/components)

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Steele Elected RNC Chair
The Republican National Committee elected Michael Steele as its first African American chairman today in Washington, a decision that came after an excruciating series of ballots that displayed a level of drama rarely seen in national politics.


Michael Steele speaks at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn. last September. (AP)On the sixth and final ballot Steele bested South Carolina Republican party Chairman Katon Dawson 91 to 77.

"It's time for something completely different and we are going to bring it to them," Steele said after his victory. "This is our opportunity. I cannot do this by myself." (Watch the full speech.)

Steele acknowledged that the GOP has an "image problem" but cast his election as a "new moment" for the Republican Party.

Asked about the controversy surrounding Rush Limbaugh and his back and forth with President Barack Obama, Steele was careful not to wholly embrace the controversial conservative talk radio host. "Rush will says what Rush has to say, we will do what we have to do as a party," said Steele

In picking Steele, who had previously served as the chairman of the Maryland Republican Party, the state's lieutenant governor, and the GOP nominee in the Maryland Senate race in 2006, the party regulars seem to be acknowledging the need for new -- and different -- faces at the top of its food chain.

"The winds of change are blowing at the RNC," said current chair Mike Duncan who stepped aside after losing votes on each of the first three ballots.

After five ballots, the race came down to Steele and Dawson. Republican party strategists in attendance at the meeting openly fretted about the possibility of electing Dawson, who had acknowledged his membership in a whites-only club, and the signal it would send to a country that had just elected Obama as the nation's first black president.

Of Obama, Steele offered the president congratulations for his victory but also sought to send a message to the Democratic chief executive; "How do you like me now," Steele asked.

It was -- interestingly -- former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell who ultimately swung the race to Steele when he dropped out before the fifth ballot and endorsed the former lieutenant governor. The move was somewhat unexpected as Blackwell had staked out the turf as the most socially conservative candidate in the field while Steele had had to beat back rumors that he was not sufficiently conservative.

Steele faces a massive challenge to rebuild a party that faces significant organizational, financial and messaging hurdles.

The Democratic National Committee is up and running and will have the benefit of the 13 million person strong email list that Obama built during the primary. Democrats also have the luxury of controlling the White House and both chambers of Congress.

Steele will provide a charismatic face at the top of the GOP but will be tested to show an ability to raise the money necessary to compete with the DNC in 2009 races (governors contests in Virginia and New Jersey) as well as the critical 2010 midterm elections.

If you missed our live Twitter coverage of the RNC proceedings -- and they were FAR more dramatic than you might think -- you can catch up on it all on TheHyperFix feed.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Desertdog on January 31, 2009, 09:26:29 AM
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Of course if the LP itself had half a brain, now would be the time to strike.
Maybe it is time for them to take over the Republican Party.  At least they would be able to run in all 50 states with no hassles.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on January 31, 2009, 11:18:44 AM
Maybe it is time for them to take over the Republican Party.  At least they would be able to run in all 50 states with no hassles.

^Here is wisdom.

I've got an (R) on my voter card, but I'm definitely more of an (L) at heart.  I've been approached by folks to look into becoming a precinct committeeman.  While the title sounds vaguely Orwellian, it is the lowest rung of the actual voting bloc of the republican party when it comes to candidate choosing time.

We're trying it here in AZ... give it a try in your corner of the world.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: longeyes on January 31, 2009, 12:03:42 PM
The GOP, what's left of it, should leave identity politics to the other side.  They are so desperate to be liked.  It's pathetic.  They have no future as as the party of Those-Trying-Too-Hard-To-Be-Hip.

Someone in this country has to be The Designated Driver.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: MicroBalrog on January 31, 2009, 12:27:57 PM
Maybe it is time for them to take over the Republican Party.  At least they would be able to run in all 50 states with no hassles.

The GOP faithful would fight them tooth and nail.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: seeker_two on January 31, 2009, 03:14:52 PM
The GOP faithful would fight them tooth and nail.

From the looks of things, I doubt they have much fight left. And, by looking at the age of the "GOP faithful" like McCain & Cheney, there won't be any left after 10 years...
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: MicroBalrog on January 31, 2009, 03:58:29 PM
From the looks of things, I doubt they have much fight left. And, by looking at the age of the "GOP faithful" like McCain & Cheney, there won't be any left after 10 years...

Remember how they fought Goldwater. And Reagan. And Buchanan. And so forth.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: ilbob on January 31, 2009, 06:19:16 PM
I don't think Steele is necessarily a bad choice. The party needs to get off its dead ass and move forward. The GOP has managed to aggravate the very people who should be the core of its support. Thats why it is losing elections. Without that base of support, no party has a chance of winning. Democrats have been much better at putting together the internal coalitions that make winning possible.

On top of that, many core Republican vboters will penalize the party (mostly by staying home) when the party strays, or a party leader goes off the reservation (think what they did to Newt). Democrats by and large could care less if their leaders are satan themselves, as long as they win. Its a different mindset.

Republicans also tend to play things a lot straighter than democrats. The massive vote fraud democrats routinely engage in is not something republicans are going to want to do.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: longeyes on January 31, 2009, 07:27:22 PM
The issue isn't bringing ignored minorities into the party; the issue is appealing to the productive people in America.

McCain could have won this thing by wooing the middle class vigorously, especially the small business community.  Instead he babbled on senescently about earmarks and let Obama and Biden co-opt the middle class constituency.

The Republicans have a natural voting bloc: the people who pay taxes and save and invest and make businesses.  That is the only "tent" they need to be thinking about.

If they try to play the Dems' game they will be history by 2012.


Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 01, 2009, 05:15:00 AM
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The GOP has managed to aggravate the very people who should be the core of its support.

And how will selecting a moderate (read: RINO) as the chairman of the national committee going to help that?

Also, serious questions to the political junkies of APS:

What is a DNC/RNC chairman for? I mean, how great is their influence really? Are they just figureheads or do they get to make real decisions? Is their power over the party greater or smaller than the formally elineated duties? What are the formally elineated duties?
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: lone_gunman on February 01, 2009, 10:40:49 AM
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What is a DNC/RNC chairman for?


Mainly a figurehead, but even a figurehead sets the tone for the party.

Picking a liberal guy is not going to appeal to most people who might vote Republican.  And lets face it, the timing of choosing a token black man seems a little strange, considering that Obama just got elected.  It makes the Republicans look like they are thinking they need a black guy to be competitive.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: txgho1911 on February 01, 2009, 10:53:23 AM
They are not finished tripping over their own Political Correctness and Affirmative Action to be just like everybody wants them to be.

The power brokers are not publicized and likely unknown outside of those figureheads and those who put them there.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: ilbob on February 01, 2009, 11:17:20 AM
the job os the RNC chariman is to win elections. if steele is able to pull that off, he is a good choice. the chairman has very little to do with setting political policy. that happens when the candidates start to sort themselves out.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 01, 2009, 11:24:09 AM
  And lets face it, the timing of choosing a token black man seems a little strange, considering that Obama just got elected.  It makes the Republicans look like they are thinking they need a black guy to be competitive.

That's what I was thinking.  "Hey, look.  We gots one o' them colored fellas, too!"   ;/
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Bigjake on February 01, 2009, 12:33:06 PM
Bares more than a little resemblance to this scenario...

[Discussing how to counter Homer Stokes' campaign for governor]

Junior O'Daniel: We could hire our own midget, even shorter than his.

Pappy O'Daniel: Wouldn't we look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies, bragging on our own midget, doesn't matter how stumpy.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: charby on February 02, 2009, 10:19:36 AM
Afirmative Action should be cancelled now. We have a black man as president and a black man to chair the Republicans. Seems to me anything is obtainable now for anyone regardless of color, creed, sex, etc.



Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on February 02, 2009, 01:57:38 PM
Afirmative Action should be cancelled now. We have a black man as president and a black man to chair the Republicans. Seems to me anything is obtainable now for anyone regardless of color, creed, sex, etc.


I dunno, I still don't see any midgets on Capitol Hill.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Scout26 on February 02, 2009, 04:38:49 PM
I dunno, I still don't see any midgets on Capitol Hill.

Wrong, we have hundreds of MENTAL midgets......
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Bigjake on February 02, 2009, 06:33:10 PM
Wrong, we have hundreds of MENTAL midgets......

Many of which, have Napoleon complexes...
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: charby on February 03, 2009, 09:55:44 AM
Afirmative Action should be cancelled now. We have a black man as president and a black man to chair the Republicans. Seems to me anything is obtainable now for anyone regardless of color, creed, sex, etc.


Now we have an Amfrican American as the AG.

Now we can cancel Affirmative Action.

Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: erictank on February 04, 2009, 12:29:15 PM
http://www.lp.org/
We don't all wear wookie suits, I promise....

Heck, MSM rumors to the contrary, there're plenty of us who hold down actual, responsible jobs, live in our own homes, and are even MARRIED.  To a real live woman, even. :angel:

Not givin' up my Vader suit, though.  You can have my lightsaber when you pry it from my cold, dead, mechanical hand.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Strings on February 04, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
>To a real live woman, even<

I'm sorry, but you'll actually have to prove that one to us...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: MicroBalrog on February 04, 2009, 03:00:59 PM
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We don't all wear wookie suits, I promise....

Others among us don't feel wookie suits are somehow bad. And I'm engaged. To another APS member of all things. :)
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: RocketMan on February 05, 2009, 01:17:06 AM
And I'm engaged. To another APS member of all things. :)

Calling her a "thing" is not likely to win you many points...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: erictank on February 05, 2009, 08:19:57 AM
>To a real live woman, even<

I'm sorry, but you'll actually have to prove that one to us...  :laugh:

Would a picture of the two of us together suffice?  My wedding pics aren't online yet.
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: Strings on February 05, 2009, 12:42:05 PM
I suppose. But we'd have to take it on faith that it isn't a photoshop...

Maybe if you both pose for a pic with buckets on your head*...  :laugh: :police: :angel:






*www.thescambaiter.com
Title: Re: Michael Steele wins RNC chairmanship race
Post by: txgho1911 on February 06, 2009, 08:39:02 PM
No other discussion of Steele cleaning house?

What caliber for gnomes?