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Title: fAkeTF
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 11, 2011, 03:59:14 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8427953


Masked criminals pretending to be ATF agents burst into a home in Houston, TX in a 1:30AM home invasion.

Best Defense?

IMO, live a clean life, and keep an automatic rifle handy and the have will and training to use it forcefully to stop all threats that enter your home.  Then investigate after the fact.  When your door is kicked down at o-dark-thirty, don't give anyone "the benefit of the doubt."   [ar15]

Encourage your local PD and Sheriff to endorse similar talking points, and to abandon no-knocks.

The feds will stop, soon enough, and once the feds stop, the criminals will stop too.
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: MechAg94 on November 11, 2011, 05:26:11 PM
I thought it said they didn't break in, someone opened the door, was shot, then the fakes entered at 1:30 AM. 
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: Jamie B on November 11, 2011, 05:52:30 PM
I thought it said they didn't break in, someone opened the door, was shot, then the fakes entered at 1:30 AM. 
Correct! The door was answered, not 'kicked down'. No 'benefit of doubt' given here.

Endorse what 'talking points'?
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: Tallpine on November 11, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
Answering the door at 1.30 am  ???

 ;/

I might get up and yell down from an upstairs window  >:D
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: CNYCacher on November 11, 2011, 08:54:26 PM
It says he was shot through the door when he refused to let them in.  Not really sure if he opened it or not.
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 11, 2011, 11:03:38 PM
Answering the door at 1.30 am  ???

 ;/

I might get up and yell down from an upstairs window  >:D

While covering the front door with the 12ga.
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: seeker_two on November 12, 2011, 08:32:31 AM
The more stories I read like this....the more motivated I am to get an AR-15 pistol as my bedside gun....
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: Fly320s on November 12, 2011, 09:59:43 AM
The more stories I read like this....the more motivated I am to get an AR-15 pistol as my bedside gun....

Just get a regular AR.
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: Tallpine on November 12, 2011, 04:55:04 PM
While covering the front door with the 12ga.

AK is better  ;)
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: seeker_two on November 12, 2011, 06:56:46 PM
The more stories I read like this....the more motivated I am to get an AR-15 pistol as my bedside gun....

Just get a regular AR.

Need something short d/t hallways & corners in my house....if I need something in a full-sized rifle, I'm going for something a lot more powerful....like a .308....
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: makattak on November 12, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
AK is better  ;)

You could have both and use a Saiga 12.
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: HankB on November 13, 2011, 07:55:28 AM
You know, I'm kind of surprised some defense lawyer's association hasn't created a nationwide database of all reported instances of FAKE police invading a residence . . . it seems that such a database, listing many, MANY instances of FAKE cop invasions would be a very useful tool at trial in the event something goes wrong (or right?) when REAL cops stage a no-knock, especially if they hit the wrong place?

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, how was my client to know he wasn't the target of a criminal home invasion, when all these incidents of home invasions by fake police (show list) have been reported in his and adjacent states?"
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 13, 2011, 10:00:38 AM
how many is many?
you think the defense bar wouldn't if they could? if it was viable?
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 13, 2011, 10:59:51 AM
You could have both and use a Saiga 12.

With a big ass drum magazine? Want.
Title: Re: fAkeTF
Post by: MechAg94 on November 13, 2011, 11:15:27 AM
AK is better  ;)
With a 40 round mag full of soft points.