Can you say "Birth Control??"

[MicroBalrog]

I have a bright idea. Maybe one of us should watch that show.

[red headed stranger]

I have a bright idea. Maybe one of us should watch that show.

I don't have time. I'll have my son do it.  :)

[Strings]

>It matters because once a person is a few years away from moving out, going to college, and starting a career; they need to starting learning how to live their lives for themselves, and not for their parents. <

And having a part-time job, or being in sports, or "involved in the arts", will do a better job of preparing someone for life than helping their younger siblings? Wow... what color is the sky in your world?

 As far as "living lives for their parents", I've seen FAR more people involved in sports at their parents instance than I have kids being "indentured servants" and taking care of younger sibs. Odd thing: the ones taking care of younger sibs seem FAR better adjusted than Johnny Football Star...

[jamz]

I'm just waiting for this thread to take the inevitable veer into recipes.  Recipes or Werewolves.

[Balog]

I find the idea that playing sports is more important (and better life prep) than occasionally babysitting to be terribly funny. The level of selfishness and baseless assumptions flying about in this thread is astonishing.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

I have a bright idea. Maybe one of us should watch that show.

I volunteer you to do it.

[Jamisjockey]

I
have
watched
the
show.

They are a little on the exteme side of their religious beliefs for me, but they ain't hurtin' nobody. 

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Are the kids OK?  Are they being oppressed?

[Jamisjockey]

Are the kids OK?  Are they being oppressed?

Aren't all well cared for children being oppressed?
 

[AJ Dual]

I
have
watched
the
show.

They are a little on the exteme side of their religious beliefs for me, but they ain't hurtin' nobody. 

I and Mrs. Dual have as well.

Definitely not the life for me, but they seem like genuinely happy and kind people. If you've ever ran into someone who was nice and helpful to the point it creeped you out, then realized they were the real deal, and the problem was you?

That's who they are.

My only real concern is other people who may decide to emulate the lifestyle, but do so with all their baggage brought along for the ride, and use it as a way to control and dominate their family. However, that would be just like using criminals to condemn all gun owners.

I believe that the reason the "Duggars" work so well is the Duggars themselves, not their faith or beliefs.

[red headed stranger]

Aren't all well cared for children being oppressed?
 

Yep.  Just ask them.  They'll tell you!  :) 

[MillCreek]

Aren't all well cared for children being oppressed?
 

My kids in their early teens thought it was abuse that I did not buy them an Xbox.  I offered them a quarter and a ride to the nearest pay phone so they could call Child Protective Services.

[Jamisjockey]

Wifey can't fathom why I'm kicking back against the idea of buying my son a handheld game console.  I don't want him buried in that thing everywhere we go...

[MicroBalrog]

I
have
watched
the
show.

They are a little on the exteme side of their religious beliefs for me, but they ain't hurtin' nobody. 

Well then, I believe it settles that, unless someone here has better knowledge of the situation than Jamis.

Note I have never said the words "child abuse" to refer to this situation. I said it was possible - possible! - for it to go bad and that it wasn't the best way. If it works for these people, oh well, more power to them.

[Jamisjockey]

Well then, I believe it settles that, unless someone here has better knowledge of the situation than Jamis.

Note I have never said the words "child abuse" to refer to this situation. I said it was possible - possible! - for it to go bad and that it wasn't the best way. If it works for these people, oh well, more power to them.

IMHO it ain't no different than another family raising their 1.5 kids to believe that Furries are people.
 

[mtnbkr]

IMHO it ain't no different than another family raising their 1.5 kids to believe that Furries aren't people.
 

FTFY.

Chris

[Perd Hapley]

Note I have never said the words "child abuse" to refer to this situation.

I thought I already clarified that I was being facetious.  If not, let this serve as clarification.  I'm also glad you provided some second-hand anecdotal evidence to support your view of large families.  I don't think you, or anyone on that side of the argument, had before.  Or maybe I missed it. 

[roo_ster]

now the time she followed me up a ladder to a third story roof on the other hand was scary. she had a good reason though  she needed me to take her to go potty

Now that elicited both a laugh and a thrill of fear, thinking about my 3YO daughter.  Both she & her 4YO brother are climbers of any and all objects and she still needs help with potty every once in a while.

Also, I did something similar to my grandpa.  I wanted to help and climbed up a ladder leading to our roof at 18-24MO.  He froze and our neighbor across the cornfield called my mom, who was at home, saying, "Your father in law is frozen in fear on top of the roof because your toddler is at the top rung of the ladder."

Wifey can't fathom why I'm kicking back against the idea of buying my son a handheld game console.  I don't want him buried in that thing everywhere we go...

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

[Balog]

My kids can have the same hand held entertainment devices I used. They're called books.

[AJ Dual]

Ahh.. Now I get it. Micro's perceptions are colored by the Haredim who riot over various minor things in his own A.O.

I just made the connection.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

not telling anyone how to raise theres since juries definitely out on whether i have a clue. but i got my lil heathen a dsi  she likes it but after the initial thrill shes balanced in her play. i think making them desire it above all things works kinda like sex and adolescent boys . makes em go hog wild.  for her its just one part of her play spectrum. it is rationed . if she stays on it too long i take it for a while

[SteveS]

not telling anyone how to raise theres since juries definitely out on whether i have a clue. but i got my lil heathen a dsi  she likes it but after the initial thrill shes balanced in her play. i think making them desire it above all things works kinda like sex and adolescent boys . makes em go hog wild.  for her its just one part of her play spectrum. it is rationed . if she stays on it too long i take it for a while

We did, too.  It is kind of nice on long car trips and she doesn't seem to overuse it.  Considering that I occasionally play video games, it isn't a surprise that I don't see them as problematic if done in moderation.