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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2012, 02:36:47 PM »
The boys photo you speak of was in the section that can be bought and almost anything goes.  My opinion is if it can't be worn to school during normal school hours it has no business as your official class photo.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2012, 02:42:29 PM »
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The boy's photo you speak of was in the section that can be bought and almost anything goes.  My opinion is if it can't be worn to school during normal school hours it has no business as your official class photo.

Is that a fact? In any case, sorry, but I fail to see the difference in concept.

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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2012, 02:46:30 PM »
Sorry, I fail to see the difference in concept. 

In the class photo section you are representing yourself as a student, in the ad section you are representing yourself as yourself.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2012, 03:08:55 PM »
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In the class photo section you are representing yourself as a student, in the ad section you are representing yourself as yourself.

So yearbooks today accept ads for escort services?

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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2012, 03:15:44 PM »
OK...

We all know there is a diffrence between a boy shirtless and a girl shirtless.  ;/

plus, yearbook photos often will use good (or not so good) candide shots taken by the family instead of a proffesional shot, since yearbook doesn't generally pay for these shots.
Was the boy in question at the beach? Where being shirtless (or semi shirtless) is acceptable?

Ten bucks, had she been in a bikini at a beach and not posed with her ass sticking out, the picture would have been acceptable.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2012, 03:41:34 PM »
Yearbook...Paid ads where anything goes... Concepts.... Analogies...

OK, so you have a magazine, let's call it Workman, which is highly respected for its articles and interviews, but has lots of pictures of nude ladies in it.

Eeek! Someone objects to the nude ladies scattered throughout the mag.

Solution:  Move the nude lady pictures to the front of the magazine so people can skip over them if they want to.  That should make it OK.

Right?

Or even better, move them to the back of the magazine.

Or maybe just to the centerfold.  Yay!

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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2012, 05:26:08 PM »
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Or maybe just to the centerfold.  Yay!

I think some guy named Hugh had that idea back in the 1950's.

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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2012, 05:41:03 PM »
so, the gay guy and the 4 paste up nerd girls of the yearbook committee are not pals with poor Sydney
but they will allow her to buy a 300 dollar add insert of her image

Hopefully someone in NYC has room for her in a modeling portfolio
as the Today Show booking pulled 8.5 of her 15 minutes of Fame allocation

her blatant facebook open gallery pulls another 2.5 minutes from her quota
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2012, 05:45:46 PM »
The camera wasn't vertical... or the image was rotated.

I'm appalled.

End of comment.


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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2012, 06:05:12 PM »
Well one thing is clear. That school has gotten her more exposure than she could have ever gotten from a yearbook.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2012, 06:24:23 PM »
Well one thing is clear. That school has gotten her more exposure than she could have ever gotten from a yearbook.

Doubt it. Bet the rest of that shoot had considerably more exposure...
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2012, 07:32:40 PM »
Doubt it. Bet the rest of that shoot had considerably more exposure...
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2012, 08:25:33 PM »
Note that isn't a "top".  It's a scarf, just a scarf. 

If she moves her arms above the elbow at all it falls off.

I'm no prude but she technically isn't wearing "clothes" as conventionally defined.

Good thing it's a picture.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2012, 08:48:43 PM »
Clearly more photos are needed to resolve the controversy.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2012, 09:08:13 PM »
Clearly more photos are needed to resolve the controversy.

You better hope she was past her 18th birthday when those photo's where taken...
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2012, 10:20:53 PM »
Clearly more photos are needed to resolve the controversy.

On that, we can all agree.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2012, 11:29:21 PM »
"It's artistic. It's STUNNING!" (Mom)

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Now that I've watched the interiew (as much of it as I could stomach) -- I'll stick to the "valley girl" characterization. The bimbo appears to have the IQ of a rock in winter.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2012, 11:33:06 PM »
Doubt it. Bet the rest of that shoot had considerably more exposure...

Considering that there's no top to that "top" you are probably correct.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2012, 12:05:56 AM »
Well one thing is clear. That school has gotten her more exposure than she could have ever gotten from a yearbook.

That's what happens when you call the Feds make a play for attention.

The school doesn't appear to be doing anything but sticking by the usual standards of decency you would expect of any organization that deals with the under-aged. People who insist on being at the center of a scandal get the exposure they seek, but why blame the system for that? Blame the attention-whore.

And you can take my word for it. I am the forum's leading expert on blame.  =)
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2012, 12:10:12 AM »
Okay, I just finished watching as much of the interview as I could. I don't think I could stand to hear her mother or the daughter say "artistic" one more time.

If she's looking to become a model, she has some decent photographs for a comp. But that's where they belong.

I couldn't help but notice, though, that the editorial committee was four girls and one guy who looked any one of the four girls could beat him up. I wonder what all that had to do with the decision. ;)

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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2012, 12:19:16 AM »
Okay, I just finished watching as much of the interview as I could. I don't think I could stand to hear her mother or the daughter say "artistic" one more time.

Obviously, the Founders intended the 1A to be used an escape clause for anyone who wants to break the rules. Anything goes, as long as you can claim it is "free expression" or art. Why do we need CCWs, anyway? Just tell the police that your hidden handgun is a first-amendment-protected expression of the violence hidden beneath the well-dressed exterior of bourgeois existence. Yeah, that ought to work.
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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2012, 12:56:21 AM »
I think the key here is that this is effectively a government publication - I don't think the government has much business dictating fashion trends.   And being government products, schools should be exemplars of the limits on government power that we enjoy.

Many school policies purport to prohibit all kinds of speech, including t shirts with guns, NRA type advocacy, etc in addition to the immodesty malarkey.   The fact that these policies are common doesn't make them any less statist  - if everyone's money is paying for the school, it ought to have policies on speech and expression that are content neutral.

The first amendment has been curtailed for students, which would make this a dicey proposition in court for either party.



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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2012, 01:15:44 AM »
The entire purpose of a standardized government school system is to enforce conformity and "discipline", De Selby.

The only solution is revolution.

I.E. abolish government schooling.


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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2012, 02:17:55 AM »
I think the key here is that this is effectively a government publication - I don't think the government has much business dictating fashion trends.   And being government products, schools should be exemplars of the limits on government power that we enjoy.

Many school policies purport to prohibit all kinds of speech, including t shirts with guns, NRA type advocacy, etc in addition to the immodesty malarkey.   The fact that these policies are common doesn't make them any less statist  - if everyone's money is paying for the school, it ought to have policies on speech and expression that are content neutral.

This perfectly illustrates my earlier point. The fact that a mode of dress can be called speech or expression is seen as an excuse to ignore rules that are put in place specifically to prohibit that so-called expression. It is precisely because the human body is not content-neutral, that it is to be covered. Yet the reason for the rule is now paraded before us as the reason why the rule must be abridged.

If such thinking as we see above is carried through consistently, one wonders how public schools are to keep students from wearing transparent garments, or any clothing at all. Once we get rid of that immodesty malarkey, that is.

"Immodesty malarkey." There's a good turn of phrase to consider. The reasonable is "malarkey." The barbaric is somehow sensible in this absurd and idiotic new world.


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The first amendment has been curtailed for students, which would make this a dicey proposition in court for either party.

The first amendment has been curtailed, as you put it, for military members and other government employees as well. Are you in favor of abolishing those rules?

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Re: Student's photo banned from yearbook
« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2012, 02:33:11 AM »
Government - and other - employees are there voluntarily. Students are not.
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