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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2013, 05:08:40 PM »
The last several employers I've had, have shopped insurance carriers every year and typically would change carriers every 2 years in order to get a more competitive rate.

Given that trend... how do insurance companies justify charging young smokers more for insurance, when it's a near 100% guarantee that the young smoker isn't going to be on that insurance company's liability list 10-20 years from now when he might actually need health care due to his smoking habits?

In the last 10 years, I've been on BCBS, Humana, Cigna, Aetna and United Health Care.  All of 'em.

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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2013, 09:40:22 PM »
There was a study done back in the 1980's that found that smokers in general were more productive. I smoked because I was very hyper, so any correlation the study found may have been reverse.

A lot of habitual drug users are often inadvertanly self medicating something. In terms of overall health, this,generally backfires, but in the moment, it actually works.

Most habitual, heavy smokers seem to light up when stressed as a cool down time. I do, my dad does, every smoker friend I ever had (and since my main source of friends at college was people I met smoking, this is a large number) does.
When a smoker is stressed, they go smoke. Five minutes later, they've relaxed, calmed down and are ready to work again.
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At work, I can tell you that a smoking break after working on a dog that is breaking my everlasting nerve makes it possible for me to go on to the next dog without me wanting to slaughter. If I quit smoking, I'm not sure what excuse I'll use to just walk away from dogs with a death wish.

The local hospital has a no smoking on grounds for everyone (workers, patients, and visitors) which I think is retarded, at least for those who arn't employees. I havn't had to take Dad in since the policy went into place for his semi annual trip to the ER for fluids, cause he's sick as a dog and refused to go to the doctor when I told him too, but it's gonna be intresting when that time comes around. When dad is stressed and unable to smoke, it doesn't go well for anyone. There is a time and a place to push the no smoking agenda. The middle of the night with a dehydrated, grumpy old fart who's stressed out because he had to go to the ER is not that time.

I think there are grounds for medical employees who work with patients for not hiring smokers. The smell does stick and having a patient who is allergic or for some reason could be stressed out by it is possible. For the same reason, the same people also should avoid heavy perfumes and such.
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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2013, 11:56:22 PM »
Anytime you see an employee smoking, throw a bucket of water on them.
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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2013, 09:06:59 AM »
At work, I can tell you that a smoking break after working on a dog that is breaking my everlasting nerve makes it possible for me to go on to the next dog without me wanting to slaughter. If I quit smoking, I'm not sure what excuse I'll use to just walk away from dogs with a death wish.

Is it possible that your experience of stress is tied to the creeping need for another nicotine fix?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the dog was a pain in the ass, but if you weren't about due for another smoke, I wonder if the dog would have bothered you so much.
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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2013, 09:24:48 AM »
Smoking employee == lost productivity.
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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2013, 10:15:22 AM »
There is a time and a place to push the no smoking agenda. The middle of the night with a dehydrated, grumpy old fart who's stressed out because he had to go to the ER is not that time.


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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2013, 10:52:06 AM »
There is a time and a place to push the no smoking agenda. The middle of the night with a dehydrated, grumpy old fart who's stressed out because he had to go to the ER is not that time.

Of course it is. Smokers must be made to suffer. It's completely his fault for engaging in a non-approved activity.

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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2013, 03:27:54 PM »
Is it possible that your experience of stress is tied to the creeping need for another nicotine fix?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the dog was a pain in the ass, but if you weren't about due for another smoke, I wonder if the dog would have bothered you so much.

Not really. My good day at work is about a three hour strech before the craving set in. One hour on a PITA dog has me running for ciggerette break.

The more stressed I am at work, usually directly correlates to how many times I hide out back and smoke. Today was a good day. Three total, one "not a break" walking a dog, one my daily after poop scooping, and one after a long streach with a matted doodle that was more about the fact that I had the time then need. After that, nothing, but I had a Dane I like and the worlds fattest cocker covered in warts who's more gross then PITA.

There are days when I can get all the way through four or five dogs, and then there are days when it's a break after every single one.
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Re: What does a smoking employee cost the company?
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2013, 03:29:38 PM »
Of course it is. Smokers must be made to suffer. It's completely his fault for engaging in a non-approved activity.

After all, you have to break a few eggs to get to Utopia!

In that case,

You take him!

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