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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2011, 05:12:05 PM »
Quote from: Brad Johnson on October 23, 2011, 12:08:29 PM
Out of curiousity, how long does it take the engines to spool up to power after throttle up?

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8 to 10 seconds.

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I believe this is a sensitive subject for Airbus, back when they put a plane into the trees at a European air show a few years back.  If I recall correctly, this was the reason.

Not sensitive, other than embarassing.  During my initial training on the Airbus, we discused the hows and whys of this crash.  IIRC, the pilots executed a soft go-around instead of a hard go-around.  In other words, they used half throttle instead of full throttle.  The plane reacted/acted as it was programmed to do.  There were other contributing factors, but the pilots were the primary cause.
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2011, 07:13:17 PM »
Still, it has to be annoying for the software to override the pilots like that.  I wonder if there is a 'I really mean it' button you can press to override the software.
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2011, 08:52:09 PM »
Quote from: MillCreek on October 23, 2011, 07:13:17 PM
Still, it has to be annoying for the software to override the pilots like that.  I wonder if there is a 'I really mean it' button you can press to override the software.

Advancing the throttle will abort the landing.  Are you sure?

[OK]  [Cancel]

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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2011, 09:17:48 PM »
Quote from: MillCreek on October 23, 2011, 07:13:17 PM
Still, it has to be annoying for the software to override the pilots like that.  I wonder if there is a 'I really mean it' button you can press to override the software.

Yes, turn off the computers to put the plane in Direct Law. Then you can fly it like a normal plane.
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2011, 10:11:18 AM »
Quote from: Fly320s on October 23, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Yes, turn off the computers to put the plane in Direct Law. Then you can fly it like a normal plane.

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2011, 02:38:00 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on October 23, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Yes, turn off the computers to put the plane in Direct Law. Then you can fly it like a normal plane.

Don't you mean you can fly it like a normal flight simulator?

Side stick actually strikes me as ergonomically good, but no feedback has to suck when things get delicate.  IMO, even CG feedback would be better than nothing, but still not the same as really feeling what the airstream is doing on the ailerons and elevator.
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2011, 06:37:47 PM »
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I see what you did there.  :O
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2011, 06:53:29 PM »
Dust. Wind. Dude!

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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2011, 07:27:22 PM »
Quote from: KD5NRH on October 24, 2011, 02:38:00 PM
Don't you mean you can fly it like a normal flight simulator?

Side stick actually strikes me as ergonomically good, but no feedback has to suck when things get delicate.  IMO, even CG feedback would be better than nothing, but still not the same as really feeling what the airstream is doing on the ailerons and elevator.

Yeah, it isn't quite a real plane, even with the computers off, but it is as cloase as you can get in an Airbus.  We still have to have a computer, electricity, and hydraulics to make it fly.
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2011, 10:22:04 AM »
Quote from: Fly320s on October 24, 2011, 07:27:22 PM
We still have to have a computer, electricity, and hydraulics to make it fly.

I notice the word "pilot" didn't make your list.  *snicker*

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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2011, 11:52:13 AM »
Quote from: Brad Johnson on October 25, 2011, 10:22:04 AM
I notice the word "pilot" didn't make your list.  *snicker*

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Nope. Those are optional.  =D  For now, all we need is programmer.
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2011, 05:26:26 PM »
Ha!

I went and visited Houston TRACON this morning by the way.  Didn't hear a single pilot get called "retard". You must be special.  :-*
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2011, 05:42:14 PM »
Extra special. I've heard "retard" five times in one landing.
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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2011, 06:06:37 PM »
*grump* I want to be a retard, too. *grump*

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Re: Difficult Landing
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2011, 10:17:19 PM »
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*grump* I want to be a retard, too. *grump*

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