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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2008, 02:11:15 PM »
Wooderson,

I live here in Illinois, You don't understand the power that Daley and his cronies (e.g The Mob) have in Illinois.  Yes, he may not be able to influence the vote in Florida, but Money and Clout go a looooong way.  Just look how many Daleyites were in the Clinton White House (Rahm Emanuel, Bill Daley, etc....)

Our Governor owes his job to Richie.  He's gone out of his way to avoid offending any of Richie's boys (Emil Jones for example) but has gone after Mike Madigan like a starving pit bull on fresh piece of steak.

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Different Daley, different era,
  Yep, the son has it down to a science.  His Father was just a piker compared to Richie.

I know several people who live in the state, and they all say that Chicago was likely a lot less corrupt when Capone ran it.
Wasn't Capone honest about being a gangster as well?

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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2008, 02:15:19 PM »
That was my point.
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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2008, 02:22:59 PM »
That was my point.
Sorry for being tired and not grasping it.
Time to hit the sack I guess.

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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2008, 02:28:16 PM »

Wasn't Capone honest about being a gangster as well?
No.  On forms he described himself as "a second-hand furniture salesman."
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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #79 on: January 09, 2008, 03:40:29 PM »
I'm not sure why "he inspires me" is such a bizarre answer - if you're planning to vote for a Democrat, and if the three candidates are all essentially the same politician, wouldn't you trend toward the person who you 'like' most (or who inspires you) and/or believe is most electable?

Wasn't being " the guy I'd like to have a beer with" widely touted as one of Dubya's strengths before a majority of the country wised up?

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He's being considered because the most powerful political movement in the world isn't Islamist jihadist, it's White Guilt.  It propels the Left everywhere.
Yes, clearly, being that he's a black guy, Obama is only successful because white folks is guilty. God almighty.
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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #80 on: January 09, 2008, 04:44:21 PM »
Obama isn't "successful" because of White Guilt, he's ADORED because of white guilt.  I was referring to the fulsome gushing and the inability to explain his "charisma."  This is the puppy love of old white liberals trying to recapture their salad years as Freedom Riders and the inarticulate yearnings of kids who have been the playthings of guilt-ridden educators.  None of this reflects on Obama himself, who seems like an amiable enough fellow--for a proto-socialist member of the Daley machine.

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I'd just heard the best simple explanation for Obama.

He's a Rorschach test.

Because he says nothing, he means something else to everyone who looks at him and is fooled. He's a projection of their own psyche, wants, needs, and politics, because he says nothing, but smiles and makes them hopeful.

Remember Jerzy Kozinski's BEING THERE?  Chance the Gardener? 

Or maybe Obama is just a Black political version of Max Headroom?

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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #81 on: January 09, 2008, 05:48:49 PM »
Problem is that most of them haven't looked for his policy... They're too busy looking for change. Too busy to wonder HOW things might change.
 
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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #82 on: January 09, 2008, 07:59:24 PM »
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I was referring to the fulsome gushing and the inability to explain his "charisma."

How is one supposed to explain "charisma"? Is "charisma" quantifiable? Where is this "fulsome gushing" - people say he's charismatic (see above) and a fine orator.

You're making unwarranted assertions to justify this "white guilt" BS. You don't 'get' Obama, and you buy into some really dumb cards about "white liberals" - and when you mix the two together...

Why you expect our public leaders to be political theorists and ideologues, I don't know - and I don't know why you don't apply these standards to the other 16 candidates. What makes Huckabee charismatic and why does he cause otherwise sane people to talk about how pleasant he is? Why did anyone think that little troll Giuliani was worth a vote?

As I said: JFK II - young, pretty, a good narrative, an outsider group on the inside, a fine public speaker. It ain't that difficult.
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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2008, 05:32:17 AM »
You are fond of large text and bold...

The default font for quoted material is kinda tiny and some folks have complained they can not read it.  So, I put it in 12pt.

The bold face is what I thought interesting.


And thank you for doing so.  I also size up my quotations, sometimes. 
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Re: Barak Obama - Explained
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2008, 06:10:28 PM »
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How is one supposed to explain "charisma"? Is "charisma" quantifiable? Where is this "fulsome gushing" - people say he's charismatic (see above) and a fine orator.

You're making unwarranted assertions to justify this "white guilt" BS. You don't 'get' Obama, and you buy into some really dumb cards about "white liberals" - and when you mix the two together...

Why you expect our public leaders to be political theorists and ideologues, I don't know - and I don't know why you don't apply these standards to the other 16 candidates. What makes Huckabee charismatic and why does he cause otherwise sane people to talk about how pleasant he is? Why did anyone think that little troll Giuliani was worth a vote?

As I said: JFK II - young, pretty, a good narrative, an outsider group on the inside, a fine public speaker. It ain't that difficult.


I'm old-fashioned, sorry; I'm still waiting for substance.  Some inspiring policies and not just b.s. about hope and change.  Obama is the opiate of new American masses.
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