NRA Prediction Thread

[slingshot]

Cerberus announced that the firearms businesses are for sale.  They do own Bushmaster.

the NRA appears to be laying low and stated that they intend to have a press conference on Friday.  They don't want anything like this happening again.  What that means in terms of their political positions, I don't know.  But if they "throw EBR's under the bus" as mentioned earlier, I suspect they will see a dramatic decline in their membership.

[Ron]

The NRA will not throw EBR's under the bus or support mag restrictions.

[Fitz]

The NRA will not throw EBR's under the bus or support mag restrictions.

I LOLd

[Perd Hapley]

This statement worries me.  It sounds too much like some of the nonsense already coming out of DC.  What are "meaningful contributions" exactly?

Same here.

Friday's statement is going to determine if my Amex is getting any exercise.  Life membership by sundown if they don't cave. 

I let my membership lapse in 2008, mainly to save $25 a year. I'll be re-upping on Friday, if they don't blow it.

[slingshot]

I hope not.  But I hope that they can bring some sanity into the discussion.  It is going to be hard and their voice will certainly not carry above the major media types with shows.  I expect Hannity will have someone from the NRA as a guest.

[longeyes]

The NRA doesn't want this happening again?  Well, who does?

But they can't stop it from happening again no matter what they propose.   Adam Lanza was no more one-of-a-kind than Maj. Hasan was. 

Their job is to defend OUR rights, not to placate the public safety at any cost fanatics.

[Ron]

I LOLd

It is a prediction thread.

There is zero upside to them folding on either issue.

The NRA is not all Fudds, they know the stakes.

It's all about the Benjamin's. They fold now they will see an exodus in membership like they've never seen before.

This isn't politics anymore.

This is fundamental transformation taking place before our eyes.

[Hawkmoon]

Here's hoping the NRA (and some conservative pundits) read this article: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fear-being-committed-may-have-caused-connecticut-madman-to-snap/

If this theory proves out, then the motive was pure revenge, and if Adam Lanza had been unable to lay his hands on a firearm or three, he was clearly intelligent enough to build a bomb that would have easily killed far more people than he did with his gun.

We need to start hammering that point. As we have always discussed, the gun was just a tool. For someone who wants to kill other people, they'll use any tool they can. Some people use guns, some use poison, some use knives, some use automobiles ... and some use bombs.

Now THERE's a genuine weapon of mass destruction. And buzzers on the front door of the school are NOT going to defeat a bomb the size of Timothy McVeigh's U-Haul.

The pointy heads in Washington need to recognize this.

[RocketMan]

The pointy heads in Washington need to recognize this.

Many of the pointy heads in DC do recognize this.  It makes no difference to them because their entire aim is to do away with firearms, period.

[Scout26]

I predict that the NRA will go the Mental Health route.  There's no way they'll throw EBR's or Standard Capacity mags under the bus.

Mental Health and stronger reporting requirements (followed by an adjudication process) will be the card they play.  That's what all the mass shooters have had in common.  Mental Health issues that went untreated.

[Perd Hapley]

That's what all the mass shooters have had in common.  Mental Health issues

 

[seeker_two]

I think it will go like this...

1. Condolences to the victims & families.
2. Offer to help school districts in securing their schools via training, whether they go armed or not.
3. Reaffirm 2A, Heller, & MacDonald and oppose any new gun-control laws.

....anything other than that risks the NRA sounding like another "Stupid Party"....

[kgbsquirrel]

Just let me get this cap on first....  ....there we go. Alright, here's my prediction. The NRA will pay lip service to protection of the 2nd amendment while giving support to reasonable common sense meaningful compromises* in D.C., and afterwards will go on a fundraising blitz crying about how they need more of our money to prevent the gun-grabbers from taking away our ability to hunt Bambi and Donald. There's more money to be made in the battle than there is in the victory.


*Which really just means further erosion of the 2nd amendment. There really is no such thing as compromise when dealing with enumerated rights, unless you're using the definition of the word that denotes the jeopardizing of said right.


I will be pleased if proven wrong, but not surprised if proven right.

[longeyes]

Ceding ground regarding mental health criteria is perhaps the greatest slippery slope of all of those who love liberty.

[SteveS]

Ceding ground regarding mental health criteria is perhaps the greatest slippery slope of all of those who love liberty.

It is, but the mentally ill are probably one of the few groups that it is acceptable to mock, stereotype, and otherwise crap on. 

[Tallpine]

It is, but the mentally ill are probably one of the few groups that it is acceptable to mock, stereotype, and otherwise crap on. 

Yeah, and white males 

[Ben]

I just read a few of the items the "Gun Task Force" headed by Biden is going to potentially pursue. I am going to make a prediction that the NRA will cave on the "gun show loophole". Seeing some of the other stuff they will have to fight, the "gun show loophole" seems like the Red Shirt of the batch.

[kgbsquirrel]

Yeah, and white males 

And bible clinging Christians.

[longeyes]

We need to begin with the realization that the left considers people like us insane. This is just Sovietism brought up-to-date.

[Jamisjockey]

Ceding ground regarding mental health criteria is perhaps the greatest slippery slope of all of those who love liberty.

At least the Government has seized control of health care.  Mix the two together and the recipe is not good.

[brimic]

Ceding ground regarding mental health criteria is perhaps the greatest slippery slope of all of those who love liberty.

Yep. Especially considering what goes into the DSM-IV under the category of 'mental illnesses' is sometimes more subjective and political than it is scientific, not to mention Psychiatrists doing the diagnosing aren't uniformly non-subjective and non-political.

[Scout26]

But, you still have to be adjudicated, in front of a judge and with access to legal counsel.   At least for now.

[Perd Hapley]

I just read a few of the items the "Gun Task Force" headed by Biden is going to potentially pursue. I am going to make a prediction that the NRA will cave on the "gun show loophole". Seeing some of the other stuff they will have to fight, the "gun show loophole" seems like the Red Shirt of the batch.

IOW, private sales?

[brimic]

But, you still have to be adjudicated, in front of a judge and with access to legal counsel.   At least for now.

Judge shopping is the official state sport where I live.

[Ron]

If the NRA supports restrictions on private sales they are done. Half their members or more will leave.

If they support restrictions on private sales I will pull a H W Bush and request they remove me from their roles as a lifetime member.

Compromise under these circumstances is tantamount to admitting culpability.