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Title: THR Crosspost--> MarkMc753 murdered...
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on June 29, 2008, 02:30:37 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=373815

WAYNE, W.Va. (AP) - Authorities are investigating the death of a former Ohio minister whose body was found at a shooting range in the Beech Fork area.

The Rev. Mark McCalla's body was found Thursday morning. Wayne County Sheriff David Pennington says McCalla suffered a single shot to the head. Police say it's a homicide.

Before serving at Highlawn Presbyterian Church in Huntington, McCalla worked at churches in Columbus, Ohio, and Corry and Franklin, Pa.

McCalla's body was found about an hour after he served breakfast to a group of volunteers working to improve area housing for low-income residents.

Pennington says authorities are not sure if the 45-year-old went to the state park by himself.
Title: Re: THR Crosspost--> MarkMc753 murdered...
Post by: Manedwolf on June 29, 2008, 02:35:36 PM
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First-degree murder warrants were filed in Huntington, West Virginia against 22-year old Daniel Smith of Cincinnati, and 19-year old Stephen Wilson of Virginia in the shooting death of 48-year old Reverend Mark McCalla. Smith and Wilson are U.S. Army deserters, and had been stationed at Ft. Drum in New York, but the Army says they have been gone since May.

Do they have the death penalty there?
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Post by: grislyatoms on June 29, 2008, 02:49:26 PM
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Do they have the death penalty there?

Sure as hell hope so. Worthless bastards.
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Post by: mtnbkr on June 29, 2008, 02:56:53 PM
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First-degree murder warrants were filed in Huntington, West Virginia against 22-year old Daniel Smith of Cincinnati, and 19-year old Stephen Wilson of Virginia in the shooting death of 48-year old Reverend Mark McCalla. Smith and Wilson are U.S. Army deserters, and had been stationed at Ft. Drum in New York, but the Army says they have been gone since May.

Do they have the death penalty there?

What happened to your rant about low income housing and gang bangers?

Chris
Title: Re: THR Crosspost--> MarkMc753 murdered...
Post by: Phyphor on June 29, 2008, 03:12:48 PM
Son of a bitch.


At least they got the bastards.  Now for the trial, may it be flawless, and hopefully, the death penalty.

Title: Re: THR Crosspost--> MarkMc753 murdered...
Post by: Antibubba on June 29, 2008, 04:30:19 PM
I think Ohio has the death penalty.  But does Ohio have the final say?  As they are Army deserters, couldn't they face courts martial and a death sentence from Uncle Sam?
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Post by: RevDisk on June 29, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
I think Ohio has the death penalty.  But does Ohio have the final say?  As they are Army deserters, couldn't they face courts martial and a death sentence from Uncle Sam?

They'd be subject to the UCMJ unless the Army decides to let them be tried under civil court.  Or hit them with both civil and military courts.
Title: Re: THR Crosspost--> MarkMc753 murdered...
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 29, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
I don't think that they will be subject to UCMJ for the murder.  I maybe wrong but since it didn't happen on a military installation or to another member of the military the civil courts will handle that.
Title: Re: THR Crosspost--> MarkMc753 murdered...
Post by: Jamisjockey on June 30, 2008, 02:47:40 AM
Umm...arent' we "at war"Huh??  Dirty low life criminals might face desertion charges, which is punishable by death penalty during war, isn't it?

I don't think W.VA. has the death penalty, by the way.
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Post by: alex_trebek on June 30, 2008, 05:35:42 AM
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I don't think that they will be subject to UCMJ for the murder.  I maybe wrong but since it didn't happen on a military installation or to another member of the military the civil courts will handle that.

I don't know about more serious charges, but I have friends who were punished under the UCMJ for misdemeanors committed while on leave and on private property.  Namely an off-base civilian bar.  Said person wasn't convicted, and still awaits civilian trial.

So being punished by both UCMJ, and civilian authorities is possible. 
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Post by: Balog on June 30, 2008, 05:55:31 AM
I know for DUI's we got punished both under the UCMJ and under the laws of the state it happened in.
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Post by: Fly320s on June 30, 2008, 06:03:21 AM
Go for the trifecta:

1.  UCMJ murder charges.... death penalty
2.  UCMJ desertion charges... at war, death penalty
3.  Civilian murder charges... possible death penalty
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Post by: wmenorr67 on June 30, 2008, 06:13:17 AM
Go for the trifecta:

1.  UCMJ murder charges.... death penalty
2.  UCMJ desertion charges... at war, death penalty
3.  Civilian murder charges... possible death penalty

#2 could be a stretch for the death penalty.  Semantics could cause issue with us being "at war."
Title: Re: THR Crosspost--> MarkMc753 murdered...
Post by: LAK on June 30, 2008, 06:14:02 AM
Local/state has primary jurisdiction. Unlikely they will pass it on.

Any known motive here?
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Post by: Jamisjockey on June 30, 2008, 06:39:39 AM
Go for the trifecta:

1.  UCMJ murder charges.... death penalty
2.  UCMJ desertion charges... at war, death penalty
3.  Civilian murder charges... possible death penalty

Scratch number 3....I don't think W. VA. has the death penalty.