Poll

What is the main reason that Governor Romney lost the election

Too conservative
1 (2.9%)
Not conservative enough
17 (48.6%)
The women's vote
0 (0%)
The economy
1 (2.9%)
The MSM
16 (45.7%)

Total Members Voted: 35

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Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« on: October 20, 2012, 11:19:28 AM »
It is not too early for us to start the Monday morning quarterbacking.  It will be interesting to see how our votes correspond to the analysis being done after Election Day.  I will post a similar poll for President Obama as well, so that we cover all the bases.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 11:49:54 AM »
I went with "not conservative," by which I mean, not Tea Party enough. By which I mean, not libertarian enough.

The other reason would be that he didn't attack the incumbent as thoroughly and relentlessly as he should have.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 12:04:51 PM »
How about "he didn't give out free phones"?

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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 12:22:36 PM »
A joke I originally heard told about Bush and characters from his administration ends with the punchline "Yesterday we were campaigning, today you voted."  The more attention I pay to this campaign, the more I am reminded of that joke.  Whomever we elect, the reality will only slightly resemble the advertising.
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Gee, I'd love to see your data!

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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2012, 12:57:24 PM »
Too many of them, not enough of us.

Let the games begin.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2012, 01:05:30 PM »
Because he and the RNC *expletive deleted*ed the Ron Paul delegates at the convention in Tampa.  He was going to win anyway, and he still cheated just because he could.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2012, 02:24:10 PM »
Because he and the RNC *expletive deleted*ed the Ron Paul delegates at the convention in Tampa.  He was going to win anyway, and he still cheated just because he could.

^^^what he said.  to mitts credit, he knows how to work the system.  
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 02:29:48 PM »
Mitt is winning this election, no ifs ands or buts.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2012, 05:43:31 PM »
One year at a time...
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2012, 05:52:31 PM »
Because Romney is nothing more than Obama-lite.  I won't vote for that.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2012, 06:36:40 PM »
Because Romney is nothing more than Obama-lite.  I won't vote for that.

But, but, Romney buys us time.   To do, uh, something.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2012, 06:46:32 PM »
So, what are you guys going to do if Obama wins? Are you going to storm DC with your Bushmasters?

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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2012, 06:48:42 PM »
Romney is a step in the right direction.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2012, 07:02:05 PM »
So, what are you guys going to do if Obama wins? Are you going to storm DC with your Bushmasters?

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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2012, 07:23:34 PM »
Why? Massive voter fraud and/or tampering by the Dems who pulled all stops out to ensure their guy got elected.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2012, 08:26:37 PM »
Because Romney is nothing more than Obama-lite.  I won't vote for that.
Romney may not be the libertarian hero you wanted, but he is far far from Obama.  Hilary Clinton would be Obama-lite.  

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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2012, 08:27:56 PM »
What do you man by conservative? Fiscal conservative or social conservative?

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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2012, 08:30:01 PM »
What does social conservative mean anyway?  Outside of abortion that is.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2012, 08:40:56 PM »
What does social conservative mean anyway?  Outside of abortion that is.

This is a pretty good definition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservatism_in_the_United_States

I liked the Tea Party movement when it was just about fiscal conservatism only.

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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2012, 09:45:19 PM »

Because Romney is nothing more than Obama-lite.  I won't vote for that.

I keep seeing this assertion.

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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2012, 09:52:18 PM »
What does social conservative mean anyway?  Outside of abortion that is.

Anti-abortion
pro-drug war
anti-gay marriage
Wants the government to enforce Biblical morality, etc.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2012, 10:06:19 PM »
Wants the government to enforce Biblical morality, etc.

Whatever that means...
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2012, 10:18:59 PM »

I voted MSM.

It's hard to make an informed decision when all the data available to you is some form of disinformation.


And, for those of you who ask that "what is real conservatism" question, I can only answer for myself:  to me real conservatism has to do with the conservation of the Constitution and its originalist framework, in other words, keeping the FedGov constrained to its vital, minimal, and essential domain and duties.

Everything else is baggage of some sort.  Yes, its good to be a moral person, and if one reads the original founders' writings on the subject it is clear that our constitutional form of government only works for a moral population.  However, defining that morality is beyond the scope of the COTUS, and that includes such "morality" as personal health, climate control, medicine, and personal habits.  Oh, and your choice of church.  Or not.

That, for me, is the essence of "conservatism."  Now, since morality is such a good idea, both the big-liberal and big-conservative groups have tried to fold their interpretation of "morality" into their platforms, with the unwritten understanding that, if they ever got the chance to do so, their version of morality would become compulsory.

And, of course, in my world any attempt to compel morality is itself immoral.

Thought control is the zenith of immorality.  Informed, enlightened, independent choice toward the most optimum survival for one's self and others and of society and life in general (i.e. enlightened self interest) is the zenith of morality.

Protect the country, deliver the mail, write laws that make commerce smooth and easily accomplished, judge legislation against the strict framework of stay-the-hell-out-of-my-life.  Set goals and actually LEAD the country toward them, but not at gunpoint.  Spend only money you have, borrow only until you can make the adjustment needed to render borrowing unnecessary.  Facilitate immigration using uniform criteria and enforce them uniformly.  Make trade with other countries possible, keep them from ripping us off.  Make life hard for our enemies and easy for our friends.  Let the States figure out the rest.

Why the hell is that so hard?  (Rhetorical.  I know why.)


Currently, the MSM is engaging in a form of thought control, the highest form of immorality.  By abridging the available information, distorting the data, and just plain fabricating the stuff, they are using subterfuge to obtain "consensus" and divert control into the hands of their favored elite.

Romney loses?  That will be why.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2012, 10:31:21 PM »
The social conservatives will ensure that obamas keep getting elected. They will eat any good candidate that is not conservative enough. I really did not like McCain, ambivalent about Romney, but to claim that either is "just like obama" is patently false. One hates America, one appears not too, close enough for me.
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Re: Why Governor Romney lost the election: a poll
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2012, 10:45:02 PM »
Where's the "massive voter fraud" option? Because that's the only way Romney is losing this election.
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