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Two more major decisions by SCOTUS: pollution and lethal injection
« on: June 29, 2015, 11:09:36 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/29/politics/supreme-court-epa-emissions/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/29/politics/supreme-court-lethal-injection-ruling/index.html

In the first decision, SCOTUS says that the EPA needs to consider costs when setting pollution limits on power plants.  In the second, using Versed as a component of a lethal injection protocol is not cruel and unusual punishment.
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2015, 12:52:13 PM »
I am always amused how complex a process we use to kill folk.  It could be so easy. Free too. Lots of heroin out there.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2015, 01:05:34 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 29, 2015, 12:52:13 PM
I am always amused how complex a process we use to kill folk.  It could be so easy. Free too. Lots of heroin out there.

NO2.

The condemned could literally die laughing  =)
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Re: Two more major decisions by SCOTUS: pollution and lethal injection
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2015, 01:15:14 PM »
Like how one of the "liberal" ones said that this opens the door for drawing and quartering.  How would that be a bad thing?
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2015, 01:15:41 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on June 29, 2015, 01:05:34 PM
NO2.

The condemned could literally die laughing  =)

I think you mean N2O.  NO2 is nasty stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2015, 01:58:43 PM »
Quote from: zxcvbob on June 29, 2015, 01:15:41 PM
I think you mean N2O.  NO2 is nasty stuff.

Meh.  Their job is to die, not critique the atmosphere.

Personally, I still like the captive bolt gun method.  With an option for the victims' families to do the job if they want.

And is anybody else just waiting for Scalia to have enough and write a single paragraph opinion?

"Regarding [plaintiff/defendant]'s argument, duh.  Regarding the other side's argument, nobody gives a crap about your imaginative interpretation of long established law.  In our opinion, you should settle this amongst yourselves via the time honored tradition of dueling with swords, which shall be provided momentarily so that a decision may be reached without further delay."
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2015, 02:17:21 PM »
Quote from: KD5NRH on June 29, 2015, 01:58:43 PM
"Regarding [plaintiff/defendant]'s argument, duh.  Regarding the other side's argument, nobody gives a crap about your imaginative interpretation of long established law.  In our opinion, you should settle this amongst yourselves via the time honored tradition of dueling with swords, which shall be provided momentarily so that a decision may be reached without further delay."

No sharps buffalo rifles?  Read an amusing account of a challenge where the challenged decided on the hunting rifles at 100 yards; presumably because that would settle the situation, one way or another, by most accounts.  The challenger decided the offense wasn't that great and backed down.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 02:42:02 PM »
Quote from: Firethorn on June 29, 2015, 02:17:21 PM
No sharps buffalo rifles?  Read an amusing account of a challenge where the challenged decided on the hunting rifles at 100 yards; presumably because that would settle the situation, one way or another, by most accounts.  The challenger decided the offense wasn't that great and backed down.

Swords make it personal.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2015, 05:07:30 PM »
Quote from: KD5NRH on June 29, 2015, 02:42:02 PM
Swords make it personal.

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Re: Two more major decisions by SCOTUS: pollution and lethal injection
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2015, 08:32:04 PM »
The problem is that duels may only be between gentlemen.

Most of the time the only "gentlemen" involved are those wearing a black bathrobe who are granted that title as a non-hereditary honorific.

You want personal?  Cudgles.  With parimutuel betting.

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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2015, 08:40:49 PM »
Quote from: vaskidmark on June 29, 2015, 08:32:04 PM
You want personal?  Cudgles.  With parimutuel betting.

Depending on the executioner, that could be considered torture ...

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Re: Two more major decisions by SCOTUS: pollution and lethal injection
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