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Title: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: 230RN on July 04, 2022, 04:43:22 AM
FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION

https://youtu.be/O3qslTxVnfQ

This was kind of disappointing, but not unexpected.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: K Frame on July 04, 2022, 06:05:06 AM
WTF? Sounds like a cap gun.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: WLJ on July 04, 2022, 07:25:53 AM
WTF? Sounds like a cap gun.

Looking at what they're loading basically that's all they are.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: 230RN on July 04, 2022, 11:52:53 AM
Guessing at it, I'd figure 10-12 grams of blank powder and the rest talcum powder.

Looking at videos of the salutes from across the bay, I half-wondered how come they seemed to be loading from the breech, but then let it pass.  I could understand lack of recoil, since they were obviously not real loads, but like I said, my mind went on to other things.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: BobR on July 04, 2022, 12:51:28 PM
I wonder if any of them are Gunner Mates? All of the noise goes out the other end, yea, that's it,out the other end. ;)

bob
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: zxcvbob on July 04, 2022, 12:58:51 PM
I wonder if any of them are Gunner Mates? All of the noise goes out the other end, yea, that's it,out the other end. ;)

bob

That probably is part of it.  What are those guns anyway?  (Originally 24-pounders, I think) The barrels don't look original and that's an awfully small breech; they must be modified to *only* shoot blanks  :'(  Maybe from Hotchkiss mountain gun cartridges.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: 230RN on July 04, 2022, 01:16:18 PM
Here ya go:

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/uss-constitution-original-guns/

Actually black powder, acc to this link.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: HankB on July 04, 2022, 09:24:27 PM
Here ya go:

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/uss-constitution-original-guns/

Actually black powder, acc to this link.
From reading that link, nobody knew what the hell they were doing. Or worse, they didn't care.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: zxcvbob on July 04, 2022, 09:27:56 PM
Here ya go:

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/uss-constitution-original-guns/

Actually black powder, acc to this link.

I was close with the Hotchkiss; those were 42mm and the Constitution has 40mms.  Still seemed like mighty weak loads, though :(  Hopefully they were louder outside the ship.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: WLJ on July 06, 2022, 07:20:43 AM
Maybe we'll learn more here.
Haven't watched it yet but I figured it was as good a place as any to drop it

Drach visits the USS Constitution

USS Constitution - The 2022 America Tour!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTsdaQBJONg

Edit: I skipped around to see and it's toward the end. Those charges are a little bit more impressive from the outside. They even let Drach fire one.
Edit Edit: Info on the gun and charge starting at 44:50
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: WLJ on July 06, 2022, 09:35:56 AM
40:53 Drach just couldn't help himself and managed to get a shot in at Adm Beatty  :rofl:
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: MechAg94 on July 06, 2022, 09:37:01 AM
I caught that video this morning.  Sounded pretty loud to me, but I didn't expect them to use full power shots. 

The different types of ammunition was interesting.  I don't think I have seen a couple of those.
Title: Re: FIRING THE SALUTE ON THE USS CONSTITUTION
Post by: WLJ on July 06, 2022, 09:44:15 AM
Info on the gun and charge starting at 44:50