Sequestration has another, unexpected side-effect?

[Gewehr98]

From co-worker today:

"I heard from a guy at Gander yesterday that sequestration has curtailed ammo purchases by the US military and other agencies, including Homeland Security who had 1.2 billion dollars’ worth of ammo (~100 years supply) on order, and that ammo sales should “return to normal” within 3-4 weeks for civilians."

If true, that would be nice.

However, Uncle Sam normally purchases in advance for complete orders, no?  

[dogmush]

no, sometimes we stagger them, and sometimes we pay on delivery.

Usually up front for small stuff, and deposit/full payment on completion for bigger contracts.

[AZRedhawk44]

"I heard from a guy at Gander yesterday that sequestration has curtailed ammo purchases by the US military and other agencies, including Homeland Security who had 1.2 billion dollars’ worth of ammo (~100 years supply) on order, and that ammo sales should “return to normal” within 3-4 weeks for civilians.

I heard from a guy at the LGS...

Usually results in complete bullscat.

[RevDisk]

The DHS thing is for FLETC, and other agencies are hopping on it. It's not that insane of an order. All federal law enforcement go through training at FLETC, and that includes shooting. It's bundled for cost savings, and to get wookie suiters in a tizzy.

[Boomhauer]

*expletive deleted*ing gun store rumors...

[AJ Dual]

The DHS thing is for FLETC, and other agencies are hopping on it. It's not that insane of an order. All federal law enforcement go through training at FLETC, and that includes shooting. It's bundled for cost savings, and to get wookie suiters in a tizzy.

This, and the contracts are all already in the pipeline. 

And since the lion's share of it was in .40, shrug... I don't really know how much it would affect supply or manufacturing capacity for everything else, unless it's taking entire machines running other calibers out of service and having all their dies replaced to stamp/shape/load .40. 

The logistics of that are something I'm not really sure of.

One thing I'm hopeful for is that for a "blip" like this in demand, a smart business won't go ramping up capacity future years won't support, but perhaps they will modernize or upgrade the existing capacity. Again, no idea if ATK and their ilk are doing so, but it would help with other supply chain interruptions, faster machines, maybe newer tech etc. less breakdowns etc. 

[lee n. field]

From co-worker today:

"I heard from a guy at Gander yesterday that sequestration has curtailed ammo purchases by the US military and other agencies, including Homeland Security who had 1.2 billion dollars’ worth of ammo (~100 years supply)

Woo!  Hoo! 

except for that "heard it from a gunstore guy thing."

 

[bedlamite]

This, and the contracts are all already in the pipeline. 

And since the lion's share of it was in .40, shrug... I don't really know how much it would affect supply or manufacturing capacity for everything else, unless it's taking entire machines running other calibers out of service and having all their dies replaced to stamp/shape/load .40. 

The logistics of that are something I'm not really sure of.

One thing I'm hopeful for is that for a "blip" like this in demand, a smart business won't go ramping up capacity future years won't support, but perhaps they will modernize or upgrade the existing capacity. Again, no idea if ATK and their ilk are doing so, but it would help with other supply chain interruptions, faster machines, maybe newer tech etc. less breakdowns etc. 

One of the guys I hunt with just retired from Federal a few years ago when they switched to 12 hour shifts. He spent years making brass from cups, and said switching a line took about a week to get back in production. They only switched when they had several months surplus of one caliber and backorders for another. 40 S&W is common enough they will just keep cranking it out. On the huge assumption that this LGS rumor is true, the only difference it might make is you might see more 40s&W on the shelf sooner.

[Scout26]

.40 S&W is about the only pistol (semi-auto) caliber I ever see on the shelves these days.  We need more 40S&W like Custer needed another Indian!

[slingshot]

I could use some 40 S&W. 

Sequestration is the biggest joke I have ever seen.  I figure they will start closing National Parks now....  just in time for spring....

[Fitz]

I could use some 40 S&W. 

Sequestration is the biggest joke I have ever seen.  I figure they will start closing National Parks now....  just in time for spring....

I am not finding it particularly funny, watching my mission/pay get cut (when I provide a fairly valuable service), while entitlements are off limits, the top-heavy military is seeing only cuts to lower enlisted, rather than to the legions of field grade officers who don't do much, and the gov is still paying for tanks/F16s to Egypt.

I'm doing what I can to get into the private sector, but in the meantime I have to accomplish the SAME mission with fewer resources (both hours and equipment) to do so.

[slingshot]

As the White House said... make it hurt!  Try making half of what you normally earn and still pay the bills.  That is what this president has done to the economy.