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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2021, 10:09:44 AM »
I dunno.

The video was uploaded on July 30 of this year, but the "news" about hospitals cancelling all but emergency surgeries, and those new hospitalization numbers, look a lot more like what was happening a year or 15 months ago, at the height of the original pandemic, and when nobody had a handle on the situation.

That newscast could have been recorded any time -- there's no time or date stamp on it.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2021, 10:16:54 AM »
Hospitals over capacity and cancelling elective surgeries due to COVID is a very real thing in some parts of the country right now, due to the Delta variant.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2021, 12:20:49 PM »
Hospitals over capacity and cancelling elective surgeries due to COVID is a very real thing in some parts of the country right now, due to the Delta variant.

So we ARE back to where we were a year ago, then?

That's not happy news.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2021, 04:47:14 PM »
But are the Tik tok stripper nurses back? It’s not a real crises until then.

And last time didn’t hospitals artificially close rooms so they could inflate the “ermagahd we are at full capacity!” numbers?
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2021, 06:24:53 PM »
I didn't comment on my post because I wanted more time to think on it.  I went out and mowed about half our pasture and came in for a break and some water and started a post with my thoughts and made a typo and when I went to correct myself, somehow deleted what I was typing.  So I said the heck with it and went back out to mow some more.  Then it started raining so I came back in and sat down to try to restate what I started to say.  But now I am so tired I just want to know, does this mean I have to stock up on toilet paper, paper towels, canned goods, rice and beans again?  We have a good pantry and could likely live out of it for a couple months, but essential goods, not so much.  The two storage cabinets in the back hall aren't bulging yet, so I guess I need to go stock up after supper.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2021, 06:54:03 PM »
So we ARE back to where we were a year ago, then?

That's not happy news.


In a way, that would be good news. In a way. It would mean that lockdowns, and all the other heavy-handed nonsense don't work, and can safely be abandoned.

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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2021, 07:03:56 PM »

In a way, that would be good news. In a way. It would mean that lockdowns, and all the other heavy-handed nonsense don't work, and can safely be abandoned.

I agree that the "heavy-handed nonsense" as you put it, didn't work.  However, do you really believe that the wannabe dictator governors won't reimpose lockdowns, social distancing and face mask requirements?
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2021, 07:11:31 PM »
If the general public were as aware of the healthcare staffing crisis as are the healthcare employees, it would be front page news and calls for government action. When you or a loved one go to the hospital, you expect to receive prompt and appropriate care. This is not now the case in many areas of the country.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2021, 07:13:38 PM »
I agree that the "heavy-handed nonsense" as you put it, didn't work.  However, do you really believe that the wannabe dictator governors won't reimpose lockdowns, social distancing and face mask requirements?

They are already starting to.  Here in Ky and other places in the news, are already doing it.  I guess I'll go stock up now, before the craziness starts.


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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2021, 07:17:28 PM »

In a way, that would be good news. In a way. It would mean that lockdowns, and all the other heavy-handed nonsense don't work, and can safely be abandoned.

And in another way, it points out that virtually all the patients now being admitted for COVID were not vaccinated.

ETA: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/31/health/fully-vaccinated-people-breakthrough-hospitalization-death/index.html
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2021, 07:24:13 PM »
And in another way, it points out that virtually all the patients now being admitted for COVID were not vaccinated.

Not vaccinated, or not vaccinated AND it's their first case of covid? That is two different populations.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2021, 12:13:20 AM »
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210513/over-_99-percent-hospitalized-2021-covid-patients-unvaccinated

If you don't think things will go straight back into lockdown, you haven't been paying attention to what has been going on in France. I think they are on their 6th wave. Unless you think the virus is different then it means we are not going to be over it quick, actually because the US is so spread out and yes, because we have vaccine hesitancy it's going to take us years to get through the equivalent of those 6 waves. Lots of people in France are vaccine hesitant too but not as many and lots of them are protesting their vaccine passport but they probably won't be able to stop it.

Because of the CDC recommendation on masks I am already seeing the changes. The library system used to require masks only for unvaccinated people and as of today it's back to 100% masks for everyone. And it's only the beginning of August...
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2021, 12:23:35 AM »
So, are these new masks certified to block the particles?
 
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2021, 07:17:02 AM »
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/spitters-its-time-for-everyone-to-mask-up-indoors-again/

The current state of my county. I expect mandatory masking to resume due to the unvaccinated population, either by government order or private business requirements.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2021, 10:11:29 AM »
https://www.heraldnet.com/news/spitters-its-time-for-everyone-to-mask-up-indoors-again/

The current state of my county. I expect mandatory masking to resume due to the unvaccinated population, either by government order or private business requirements.
It isn't "due to the unvaccinated population".  It is because they are govt bureaucrats and want the Govt to do "something" even if it is largely ineffective.  They realize they can't put a vaccination status collar around everyone's neck which may be a small blessing. 
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2021, 10:29:39 AM »
^^^I suspect the unvaccinated population will be cited as one of the reasons for new mandates. The Washington governor is already making noises about this.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2021, 11:40:45 AM »
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210513/over-_99-percent-hospitalized-2021-covid-patients-unvaccinated

If you don't think things will go straight back into lockdown, you haven't been paying attention to what has been going on in France. I think they are on their 6th wave. Unless you think the virus is different then it means we are not going to be over it quick, actually because the US is so spread out and yes, because we have vaccine hesitancy it's going to take us years to get through the equivalent of those 6 waves. Lots of people in France are vaccine hesitant too but not as many and lots of them are protesting their vaccine passport but they probably won't be able to stop it.

Because of the CDC recommendation on masks I am already seeing the changes. The library system used to require masks only for unvaccinated people and as of today it's back to 100% masks for everyone. And it's only the beginning of August...

At this point nearly everyone has atleast has had the opportunity to take the vaccination,  and can still get it.  It should no longer be the responsibility of those who are "vaxxed" to protect those who are not.

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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2021, 11:50:48 AM »
^^^I suspect the unvaccinated population will be cited as one of the reasons for new mandates. The Washington governor is already making noises about this.

Yeah, they will get us on the boxcars one way or the other.
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I don't trust a word out of any government or mainstream media source. Or most doctors. They are pushing a political agenda.

And I have been hearing in multiple places of "vaccinated " people getting the virus. Both on the web and amazingly the CDC even said so recently. And the "vaccinated" are giving it to other "vaccinated" people. The masks are stupid- ineffective, shown by study pre-hysteria and also by mask-no mask examinations of case counts in different mandating counties with comparable populations.
 
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 The virus is real, but insignificant to the survival of a civilization.   It has been weaponized as a propaganda/fear tool to impose control. This fear/control method is as old as humanity and it astounds me people can't see it.
 
 

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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2021, 12:17:35 PM »
At this point nearly everyone has atleast has had the opportunity to take the vaccination,  and can still get it.  It should no longer be the responsibility of those who are "vaxxed" to protect those who are not.

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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2021, 12:18:39 PM »
What gets me is that now people seem to think that a VERY ineffective solution (the mask) is more effective than the science-based vaccine.
 
And... Seems like there are -cases- but again, about the only folks who die with it are people who are already hanging out in death's waiting room.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2021, 12:19:27 PM »
The virus is real, but insignificant to the survival of a civilization.   It has been weaponized as a propaganda/fear tool to impose control. This fear/control method is as old as humanity and it astounds me people can't see it.

This, in spades.
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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2021, 12:21:44 PM »

GET VAXXED!!!!
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No.

The US is one of the only first world countries to insist on vaccines  both for those who haven't had and have had covid. The more peer reviewed research that I read (and sadly much of it comes from international researchers because the MSM and big tech seem to put a lid on it here), the more evidence I see that this covid results in the same robust immunity as SARS/covid1, which is to say likely lifetime.

Unless this vaccination craze ends up creating a platform for significant virus mutation, in which case neither the vaccinated who have never had covid, nor those with natural immunity are safe from a significant mutation.
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Re: Epidemiologist tells the truth.
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2021, 12:26:48 PM »
Yeah. Just keep telling me the vax is effective. Sure, I'll believe you eventually. Uh-huh.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html
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