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Title: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: WLJ on December 12, 2020, 08:51:38 PM
Can 2020 get any more bizarre?

‘It needs to be destroyed’: The Vatican unveils its Sumerian-influenced sci-fi nativity scene
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/12/it-needs-to-be-destroyed-the-vatican-unveils-its-sumerian-influenced-sci-fi-nativity-scene/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpA93dLVQAIKdmH?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 12, 2020, 09:28:13 PM
All it needs is a Mandalorian and Baby Yoda.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: MillCreek on December 12, 2020, 09:29:37 PM
I am not exactly sure what I am looking at here. 
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 12, 2020, 09:33:20 PM
I am not exactly sure what I am looking at here. 

That's because you're not sufficiently woke, you cisnormative colonialist oppressor.

But seriously, to think that art has gone from St. Peter's Basilica and the Sistine Chapel to . . . whatever the hell this is.     :facepalm:

Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Ben on December 12, 2020, 09:34:25 PM
This Pope has got to go.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: French G. on December 12, 2020, 09:44:20 PM
Maybe they are trying to tell us they knew all along about the alien life secrets Trump is sitting on. Special extra-terrestrial delivery.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: 230RN on December 12, 2020, 10:41:26 PM
I am not exactly sure what I am looking at here. 

Ditto.  I even tried my Bizarro eyeglasses.  No joy.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: just Warren on December 12, 2020, 10:58:31 PM
Why is the facehugger on the astronaut's chest?
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 12, 2020, 11:04:26 PM
Sad.

Catholics used to be pretty good at communicating the gospel through images. Not just in a few, high-profile artworks, but through something as ubiquitous as the crucifix. A man nailed to a wooden crosspiece, his body twisted in pain. Powerful; relatable. Then there's this spaceman with a baby bjorn, and a B movie monster behind them. What in the actual?
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: TommyGunn on December 12, 2020, 11:25:39 PM
Why is the facehugger on the astronaut's chest?

You're not the only one who saw that ..... thing  and thought: ALIEN.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Ron on December 13, 2020, 07:34:11 AM
That my friends is modern art.

The point behind it is to be absurd, disturbing and defiling by claiming to represent the true, good and beautiful.

It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

It is not a nativity scene. It does not represent anything Christian.

Words have meaning.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: brimic on December 13, 2020, 08:14:44 AM
That my friends is modern art.

The point behind it is to be absurd, disturbing and defiling by claiming to represent the true, good and beautiful.

It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

It is not a nativity scene. It does not represent anything Christian.

Words have meaning.








That’s exactly what it is for- to destroy beauty/asthetics and demoralize.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 13, 2020, 01:01:03 PM
This Pope has got to go.

He's not like a regular pope. He's a cool pope.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: just Warren on December 13, 2020, 01:46:51 PM
He's one dope pope!
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 13, 2020, 02:17:33 PM
That my friends is modern art.

The point behind it is to be absurd, disturbing and defiling by claiming to represent the true, good and beautiful.

It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

It is not a nativity scene. It does not represent anything Christian.

Words have meaning.

Spot on.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: WLJ on December 13, 2020, 02:21:18 PM
That my friends is modern art.

The point behind it is to be absurd, disturbing and defiling by claiming to represent the true, good and beautiful.

It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

It is not a nativity scene. It does not represent anything Christian.

Words have meaning.

Like this?
And your tax dollars help pay for it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

What do you think the reaction would have been from the left not to mention certain others if it was Muhammad instead? Think the "art" galley would still be standing?
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: charby on December 13, 2020, 09:54:41 PM
Can't you see it isn't a Nativity scene but a summoning by the Catholic church for the demon Flauros to kill all the heretics on the Solstice.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: HankB on December 13, 2020, 10:28:27 PM
He's not like a regular pope. He's a cool pope.
"Cool" is another way of saying "Not so hot."

Pope Francis - President Harris - it seems we've somehow become the Bizzaro World I read about in comic books when I was very young.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: 230RN on December 13, 2020, 11:43:38 PM
Ron said,
Quote
It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

Allow me to amend that slightly:

"...but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God or his own sensibilities and rationality."

(Please note the "or.")

In other words, so that ultimately we will accept the notion that  2 + 2 = 5.

Doesn't most of the crap from the leftists this year fit that motivation?

We have a whole thread on "AOC's" pronouncements.  Look it over. Preponderance of evidence?

Terry
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2020, 08:44:48 AM
Joe Biden will handle this.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/14/washington-post-joe-biden-could-redefine-what-it-means-to-be-a-catholic-in-good-standing/
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 15, 2020, 04:45:48 PM
Joe Biden will handle this.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/14/washington-post-joe-biden-could-redefine-what-it-means-to-be-a-catholic-in-good-standing/

From the Twitter comments:  "He's more likely to speak Ex Catheter than Ex Cathedra."

Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: WLJ on December 15, 2020, 04:51:29 PM
I guess just be glad they didn't make it a scene of Mary aborting Jesus
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: TechMan on December 16, 2020, 01:22:05 PM
The object in the background looks like a knight from Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: charby on December 16, 2020, 01:50:15 PM
The object in the background looks like a knight from Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail.

"I'll bite ye legs off!"
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: WLJ on December 16, 2020, 01:57:18 PM
Wait, is that a white rabbit?
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: lee n. field on December 16, 2020, 03:57:57 PM
Can 2020 get any more bizarre?

‘It needs to be destroyed’: The Vatican unveils its Sumerian-influenced sci-fi nativity scene
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/12/it-needs-to-be-destroyed-the-vatican-unveils-its-sumerian-influenced-sci-fi-nativity-scene/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpA93dLVQAIKdmH?format=jpg&name=900x900)

super creepy.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: zxcvbob on December 16, 2020, 04:10:54 PM
Is the astronaut holding a bowling ball?
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: 230RN on December 16, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
Fractured mental / visual processes were involved.

Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: lee n. field on December 16, 2020, 05:00:04 PM
Is the astronaut holding a bowling ball?

I suspect what it will end up being is a copy of an idol excavated from the ruins of an ancient Sumerian city.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 16, 2020, 05:06:33 PM
Fractured mental / visual processes were involved.



Is that a fancy way of saying schizophrenic and/or psychedelic?
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: lee n. field on December 16, 2020, 05:16:19 PM
Is that a fancy way of saying schizophrenic and/or psychedelic?

possessed
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: bedlamite on December 16, 2020, 05:39:04 PM
The object in the background looks like a knight from Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail.

Ni!
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 16, 2020, 10:25:06 PM
The object in the background looks like a knight from Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail.

I was thinking a bit of Zardoz influence
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: Andiron on December 16, 2020, 10:31:15 PM
Get out the flamethrower and deus vult it is...
Title: Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
Post by: 230RN on December 16, 2020, 10:42:59 PM
I suspect what it will end up being is a copy of an idol excavated from the ruins of an ancient Sumerian city.

You mean the "Venus of Willendorf?"