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Ruger getting into the AR market
« on: May 15, 2009, 06:08:57 PM »
The new SR-556

Wouldn't mind having one if it's imbued with Ruger's legendary reliability, though an MSRP of $1995 makes it a bit pricey.

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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 06:36:30 PM »
Pricing is inline with the S&W M&P15T which runs $1888 MSRP (or ~ $1400 retail pre-Obama). $100 or so more for a gas piston design, a pair of extra mags, and a Hogue pistol grip isn't too far out of line.

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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 06:42:11 PM »
Is that magazine blocked so that it only holds ten rounds?

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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 06:48:56 PM »
I'd take that as a joke, Dick, but I know better.

If it's decent, and I find a deal on one, I might consider it. Although I've heard bad things about op-rod uppers not being as accurate (4 MOA as opposed to 2 or less)...
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 07:14:37 PM »
I wonder if that's legal to hunt with over here...
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 07:17:56 PM »
Piston uppers for ARs have one major problem - virtually every one is different!

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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 08:07:37 PM »
Wonder where Ruger will put the integral lock?
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 08:10:28 PM »
Somewhere in hell Bill Ruger is spinning. Makes me smile.
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 10:52:10 PM »
Maybe so, but it won't really be a Ruger unless it's got a trigger that gives "appalling" a bad names and includes a so-called "safety warning" nearly the size of the gun.
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 10:59:17 PM »
Does this mean that Ruger is admitting that the Mini-14 wasn't such a good idea after all?.... ???
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 10:59:49 PM »
Who's running the pool on when the recall is announced?
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 11:07:42 PM »
Who's running the pool on when the recall is announced?

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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 11:09:19 PM »
Does this mean that Ruger is admitting that the Mini-14 wasn't such a good idea after all?.... ???

No.  It's Ruger saying they want to get into the AR-15 market.  If they thought the Mini-14 was a mistake, they'd have priced their AR-15 at a much lower level so that it would directly compete with it, then eventually kill off their Mini.
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2009, 11:20:07 PM »
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3.5 weeks after release.

Something to do with the piston.

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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 12:02:01 AM »
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 06:44:59 AM »
It looks like a Sig 556 from the handguards forward. Gas valve adjust looks like it could be the same part.
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2009, 10:10:07 AM »
If anyone can build an inaccurate overpiced Ar-15, Ruger can! :laugh:

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No that's probably a magazine that Ruger will only sell to LEOs  :lol:
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2009, 01:47:38 PM »
Here's Tam's take on it.



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Did you hear? Ruger's gone carbon-neutral. Yup, they've wrapped ol' Bill “No Honest Man Needs A Handgun Smaller Than A Canned Ham” Ruger Sr.'s corpse in copper wire and lined the coffin with magnets, and now the whole plant is off the grid. They've broken with Bill's mandates by offering us Simple Civilians a whole slew of new guns.

In the wake of their little Kel-Tec ripoff .380 and a polymer skinned revolver named the “L.C.R.” (after “W.T.F.” and “W.H.Y.” were discarded), Ruger has finally showed up fashionably late at the AR-15 party, about the time that most of the other attendees were already dancing in togas or vomiting in flowerpots with lampshades on their heads. Heck, even Remington and S&W had been there long enough to get wasted and go wading in the “Make A Wish” fountain with their ball gowns hiked up around their knees.

Ruger vowed to “redefine the platform”, and attempted to do this with a piston system, never mind that HK, POF, LWRC, Para, Bushhamster, and Greasy Joe's Dixie Bar & Grill had already done so.

On the plus side, the Ruger offering ships with quality third-party small bits from Troy, Magpul, and Hogue, as well as acknowledging the fact that most EBR shooters would like more than one magazine by throwing three P-Mags in the box. The downside is that all of that name-brand bling costs money and most AR buyers simply DX half the factory parts on the gun in favor of the contents of pages 63 through 101, inclusive, of the Brownell's catalog. An AR with a street price north of one-and-a-half long is nice, but only when you've picked out the toppings yourself.

I wish Ruger luck and all, but it wouldn't shock me if this all ends in tears...
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2009, 02:51:26 PM »
Hrmm. Entering an overrepresented market with a new product that's really undifferentiated in the minds of the casual buyer, at a price point out of sorts with the reputation of the business.

A sure formula for success.  ;/

If Ruger had started pumping out "standard" m4-alikes that have reasonable reliability at a $700 price point, they'd own the world (figuratively) after a short time, even if doing so meant cast alloy uppers and investment cast steel lowers. But this? meh.

It's like watching Volkswagen introduce a $100,000 luxury car along the likes of the better Lexuses, Mercedes, and BMW models. OH WAIT, they did! And it flopped miserably too.

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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 02:55:15 PM »
Hrmm. Entering an overrepresented market with a new product that's really undifferentiated in the minds of the casual buyer, at a price point out of sorts with the reputation of the business.

A sure formula for success.  ;/

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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2009, 03:55:06 PM »
I can think of maybe 2 Rugers that weren't "Me Too!" offerings in well established markets, the Blackhawk and the Number One single shot.  Most of 'em, or their descendents, are going strong.  I 'spect the SR-556 will be with us for some time, or until banned.
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2009, 03:56:35 PM »
The Mk 1 .22 was pretty innovative back in the day, wasn't it?
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2009, 04:22:02 PM »
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I 'spect the SR-556 will be with us for some time, or until banned.

I think you bring up a good point. As fun as it is to bash Ruger, if they grab a piece of the civillian EBR pie, they don'tsound likely that they will repeat past political mistakes. If only for that reason alone, I hope Ruger sells a lot of them. Gotta give them a little credit in that area.
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2009, 07:01:20 PM »
Regardless of the quality of the gun, or how well it sells, isn't this a major step for Ruger, toward shedding the political funk left by the late Bill Ruger?  This is good news, folks. 
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Re: Ruger getting into the AR market
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2009, 10:31:37 PM »
Maybe I'm jaded, being a Sig guy, but who the hell wants an over priced Ruger ripoff when you could just have the Sig 556 for roughly 400 bones less?? 

And I don't anticipate a pile of recalls on my sig....