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Republicans do something right?
« on: January 18, 2013, 10:53:10 PM »
http://budget.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=317187

WASHINGTON¬Earlier today, House Republicans announced a path forward on the nation’s near-term budget challenges. The 1974 Congressional Budget Act requires passage of a budget resolution by April 15 each year. Under Senator Harry Reid’s leadership, the Senate has refused to pass a budget for 1,360 days. As the Administration and Congress work through opportunities to cut government spending, there will be no consideration of a long-term debt-ceiling increase unless both the House and the Senate pass a long-term budget plan. The plan also includes a bipartisan proposal to withhold Senators’ salaries if they fail to pass a budget.

In response to the plan outlined by House Republican leaders, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan issued the following statement:

    “I stand in strong support of the agreement reached by my colleagues today. Our conference has united around a common-sense proposal. It rests on the recognition that our challenge is twofold: We have to pay our bills today, and we have to make sure we can pay our bills tomorrow. To achieve both ends, we must cut spending and budget responsibly.

    “Since taking the majority, House Republicans have done their job. We’ve passed a budget that promotes economic growth and gets spending under control. But for nearly four years, Senate Democrats have refused to pass a budget. Today’s agreement will hold the Senate accountable for this legal and moral failure. Just as April 15 is tax day for American families, it is budget day for Congress. Unless the Senate acts, there will be no consideration of a long-term debt-ceiling increase. I look forward to working with my colleagues—in both houses and in both parties—on this vital issue.”

For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity, that they may be without excuse. Because knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, and didn’t give thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2013, 12:00:38 PM »
My prediction:
Much wailing and knashing of teeth from the Dem controlled Senate. The Party of No is being so unfair, hates women and minorities and kicks kittens.
Much wailing and knashing of teeth from Obama. The Party of No is being so unfair, hates women and minorities and kicks kittens.
Much wailing and knashing of teeth from the MSM. The Party of No is being so unfair, hates women and minorities and kicks kittens.
The Republican resolution wavers and they cave.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2013, 12:17:52 PM »
Solvency is just around the corner.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2013, 12:39:15 PM »
Solvency is just around the corner.

If they would just follow my plan, we could balance the budget by 2517.

This year's spending increases will be offset by spending reduction in the 22nd century.

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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2013, 12:42:12 PM »
If they would just follow my plan, we could balance the budget by 2517.

This year's spending increases will be offset by spending reduction in the 22nd century.

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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2013, 01:59:13 PM »
Was that put out by Cry-Baby Boehner or by someone like Paul Ryan that seemingly actually has a pair?
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2013, 04:34:15 PM »
The person who said it is mentioned in the OP... Paul Ryan
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2013, 04:54:01 PM »
Solvency is just around the corner.
Doesn't say which corner though.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 10:41:11 AM »
Get back to me when spinelessrepublicans actually do what they say they'll do.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 04:49:31 PM »
The House could de-fundCould.

Won't.

They refuse to take the heat, even with the future of America at stake.  The rest is flapdoodle.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2013, 07:22:11 AM »
It seems their proposal is unconstitutional.  I suspect they knew that from the beginning.  A built-in cave.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2013, 09:52:25 AM »
It seems their proposal is unconstitutional.  I suspect they knew that from the beginning.  A built-in cave.
Unconstitutional? Where does the Constitution require the House to consider a debt-ceiling increase? Current receipts are sufficient to cover debt service ("Full faith and credit" etc.) as well as a number of other items, including Social Security retirement payments, Medicare, and military pay. It's when you get into the fuzzy stuff (like the trillion dollars a year we're spending on various welfare programs, funding other Solyndras, etc.) that we'd come up short.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2013, 10:49:42 PM »
Not the debt ceiling, HankB.  The part of the deal where they would withhold congressional pay if a budget was not passed.  Read the fine print.
If there really was intelligent life on other planets, we'd be sending them foreign aid.

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2013, 05:28:27 AM »
Unconstitutional? Where does the Constitution require the House to consider a debt-ceiling increase? Current receipts are sufficient to cover debt service ("Full faith and credit" etc.) as well as a number of other items, including Social Security retirement payments, Medicare, and military pay. It's when you get into the fuzzy stuff (like the trillion dollars a year we're spending on various welfare programs, funding other Solyndras, etc.) that we'd come up short.
IIRC congress can't pass a law regarding their pay that goes into effect for the current congress. Pay changes can only take effect for the next congress.

This way they can't just give themselves an immediate pay raise, but I believe it works both ways.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2013, 09:42:50 AM »
Changing your pay scale is not the same as withholding pay until services are rendered.  I think they ought to push through with this, even if it is unconstitutional it is going to bring a lot of focus down on the Senate and the fact that they have not passed a budget in 3.5 years.

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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2013, 09:46:31 AM »
I just wish we could at least claw back the pay of the Senate Appropriations Comittee (or whichever is responsible for sending budgets to the floor) for the last 3.5 years.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2013, 10:10:02 AM »
IIRC congress can't pass a law regarding their pay that goes into effect for the current congress. Pay changes can only take effect for the next congress.

This way they can't just give themselves an immediate pay raise, but I believe it works both ways.

It doesn't work both ways.  The power of the purse IS absolute in the constitution.

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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2013, 11:14:36 AM »
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The power of the purse IS absolute in the constitution.
Too bad republicans don't believe it.
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Re: Republicans do something right?
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2013, 11:34:08 AM »
It is going to take a REAL Tea Party to move the needle on this problem.  All the rest of it, by our public representatives, is feckless posturing.
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