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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2015, 08:00:39 AM »
Quote from: wmenorr67 on July 30, 2015, 01:08:48 PM
Didn't God say we were to rule over all animals?
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Rule, yes. Master, probably (cats say, "yeah, right. Just try it.") But I like to think of this dominion being a form of good stewardship because God has an affinity for shepherds, those who care for and defend animals.  =)
It's best to be kind to critters because we're pretty much in the same boat:

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"For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity."
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2015, 08:35:31 AM »
The lion story.....as far as I'm concerned, it's an internal law enforcement matter in mugabestan. No interest for me at all.

The PP thing is big news.....and the recent judgement to put a gag order on the remaining videos even more so. Makes me wonder how long until we see another Eric Rudolph....and if he'll be considered as evil as Rudolph.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2015, 08:56:02 AM »
Everything is just a distraction  ;/

Where is the outrage at the absolutely PATHETIC presidential candidate lineup? Is that REALLY REALLY all America has to offer??  :'( :facepalm: [barf]
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2015, 10:17:40 AM »
Quote from: brimic on July 29, 2015, 04:08:18 PM
He probably relied on the local guides or PHs who are supposed to know what is legal and what is not.

This; how many of us rely on professionals to keep us legal and safe on a daily basis?

If granny's brakes fail a mile after she leaves the shop, and she plows into a school bus, is it really her fault for not putting aside her walker long enough to pull all four wheels off and check the professionals' work?
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2015, 11:11:30 AM »
Quote from: seeker_two on July 31, 2015, 08:35:31 AM
The PP thing is big news.....and the recent judgement to put a gag order on the remaining videos even more so. Makes me wonder how long until we see another Eric Rudolph....and if he'll be considered as evil as Rudolph.

Of note, the gag order is temporary and applies to only videos with the Stem Express company. All their other videos are free to be posted. 
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2015, 12:16:26 PM »
The latest video is pretty special. It freaked even me out and I would go to a human sacrifice if it was announced


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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2015, 01:19:30 PM »
Quote from: Blakenzy on July 31, 2015, 08:56:02 AM
Everything is just a distraction  ;/

Where is the outrage at the absolutely PATHETIC presidential candidate lineup? Is that REALLY REALLY all America has to offer??  :'( :facepalm: [barf]

Back to the comments several of us have made in the past.  Those that would be great at the job know better than to run for the position.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2015, 01:31:23 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 31, 2015, 12:16:26 PM
The latest video is pretty special. It freaked even me out and I would go to a human sacrifice if it was announced


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Link?

I have lost count of videos.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2015, 02:06:05 PM »
Regarding the cost of the hunt, my understanding is that premium deer leases here in Texas are getting pretty dang expensive and many require the lease holders to put out feed and protein for the deer.  Mostly private land at least around the Houston area and lots of hunters.  I can imagine a big game hunt in Africa would be pretty expensive.  Not sure what hunting bear and such in the US costs.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2015, 02:17:50 PM »
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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2015, 03:23:15 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 31, 2015, 02:17:50 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/politics/planned-parenthood-fourth-video/

I do get really tired of the "journalists" leaving the "it's edited" excuse open.  Post the whole damn raw video to YouTube and link it from the edited version so anybody who really wants all the details can go get them, and the guilty parties can't accuse you of cherry picking sound bites from a perfectly innocent situation.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2015, 03:24:13 PM »
Per the Center for Medical Progress they have a total of 9 videos.  They've released 4, which each one more horrifying then the last.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2015, 03:33:33 PM »
As horrifying as what we see is their attitudes are what blows my mind


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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2015, 03:36:15 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 31, 2015, 03:33:33 PM
As horrifying as what we see is their attitudes are what blows my mind


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Indeed. Especially on the fourth video.

From what I've read, the group has been making the full videos available, so if there are issues with "edited" videos, that's on the leftist journalists and their laziness / unethical behavior.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2015, 03:45:21 PM »
In the CNN link, the reporterette clearly shows her bias.
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There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2015, 03:50:51 PM »
One thing as a male I need never lose sight of is the reality that a great many women who have made certain choices are very heavily invested in making sure that it's stays acceptable. To allow otherwise would require introspection they are not willing to endure

In pursuit of maintaining their moral status quo convincing other women to make the same choice is a price they are willing to inflict


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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2015, 06:26:41 PM »
Quote from: KD5NRH on July 31, 2015, 03:23:15 PM
I do get really tired of the "journalists" leaving the "it's edited" excuse open.  Post the whole damn raw video to YouTube and link it from the edited version so anybody who really wants all the details can go get them, and the guilty parties can't accuse you of cherry picking sound bites from a perfectly innocent situation.


Like Ben said, I have also heard that they've been posting the complete videos along with the edited-for-time videos from the beginning. Otherwise, no one would have an unedited video with which to compare.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2015, 07:08:33 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 31, 2015, 02:06:05 PM
Not sure what hunting bear and such in the US costs.

My outfitter for a MN bear hunt is charging me $900 for the hunt. My Non Resident MN bear tag is $231.

I rented a 3 bedroom cabin which I will share with for people for a week at $110 a night.

$900 gets me: 95% success rate of harvesting active bears at bait stations. The guided hunts include breakfast at a local restaurant. We provide transportation to and from your hunting site. When you harvest a bear we do all the work from tracking, dressing, retrieving, skinning and processing. All you have to do is pose for pictures.

I'd spend at least that much in gas and motels driving 9 hours one way every 3 days to bait, then hope that someone doesn't use my bait station before I get there.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2015, 07:11:42 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 31, 2015, 02:06:05 PM
I can imagine a big game hunt in Africa would be pretty expensive. 

I'm probably going to go hunt Africa in the next 5-10 years, I'm not going to do dangerous game, but I should be able to harvest 10-12 plains species w/taxidermy for about $20k from doorstep to doorstep.

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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2015, 08:19:05 AM »
Quote from: charby on July 31, 2015, 07:11:42 PM
I'm probably going to go hunt Africa in the next 5-10 years, I'm not going to do dangerous game, but I should be able to harvest 10-12 plains species w/taxidermy for about $20k from doorstep to doorstep.

Since you're going, how much would you charge me to bring back some living specimens? I have a list... =D
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2015, 08:54:34 AM »
Quote from: LadySmith on August 01, 2015, 08:19:05 AM
Since you're going, how much would you charge me to bring back some living specimens? I have a list... =D

Ever since I went to Africa I've wanted to find a way to bring a Hyena to the dog park for the crazy people to see. =D  They are apparently more or less domesticated by some tribes for home defense.
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2015, 12:28:35 PM »
Quote from: LadySmith on August 01, 2015, 08:19:05 AM
Since you're going, how much would you charge me to bring back some living specimens? I have a list... =D
Well, I read that Zimbabwe is crating up live elephants and shipping them to China, presumably for zoos . . . maybe there's something there for you. 
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2015, 07:14:45 PM »
Well, it appears Zimbabwe is now seeking extradition. A bit of turnabout from their earlier stance that it's the PH's responsibility to put the client on a legal kill. Looks like they caved to social media, and will apparently have the help of the US government, which seems quite eager to give up a citizen.

Regardless of Palmer's guilt or innocence, it appears his goose is cooked. Not by law, but by the emotions of the masses.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/01/zimbabwe-to-press-for-extradition-hunter-who-killed-cecil-lion/
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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2015, 07:24:51 PM »
Quote from: Ben on August 01, 2015, 07:14:45 PM
Well, it appears Zimbabwe is now seeking extradition. A bit of turnabout from their earlier stance that it's the PH's responsibility to put the client on a legal kill. Looks like they caved to social media, and will apparently have the help of the US government, which seems quite eager to give up a citizen.

Regardless of Palmer's guilt or innocence, it appears his goose is cooked. Not by law, but by the emotions of the masses.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/01/zimbabwe-to-press-for-extradition-hunter-who-killed-cecil-lion/

They smell more money to extort

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Re: There Is No Middle Ground
« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2015, 07:30:15 PM »
Quote from: Boomhauer on August 01, 2015, 07:24:51 PM
They smell more money to extort

That's my thought. I can't believe even this whacked administration would allow him to be put in one of Mugabe's torture chamber prisons. They would happily see him hock everything he owes though, and go into debt for a couple million dollars in "fines" for Zimbabwe's conservation service (which will in reality buy a replacement fleet of luxury cars for Mugabe).
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