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Title: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Ben on April 16, 2022, 03:06:41 PM
Here's the top ten who the Washington Post thinks should run in 2024:

Here’s the list in order from one to ten:

President Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Kamala Harris
Elizabeth Warren
Amy Klobuchar
Roy Cooper
Sherrod Brown
Cory Booker
Gavin Newsom
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/16/wapo-presents-the-top-10-dem-presidential-candidates-in-2024-guess-whos-not-in-the-top-2/
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 16, 2022, 03:11:53 PM
Is my calendar wrong? Is it April 1?
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 16, 2022, 03:57:50 PM
I've long since unplugged from the R machine, but aren't ALL those names D names?

Since when does a party run competition against their own incumbent?  Or is Biden not intending to run again?
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Northwoods on April 16, 2022, 06:52:22 PM
Here's the top ten who the Washington Post thinks should run in 2024:

Here’s the list in order from one to ten:

President Biden House Plant
Pete Buttigieg - the guy nobody noticed was gone for 2 months
Kamala Harris - makes HRC look personable and W look articulate
Elizabeth Warren - Fauxcohontas, her moment passed in 2016
Amy Klobuchar - who?  Oh yeah, the frumpy senator from somewhere nobody cares about
Roy Cooper - who?
Sherrod Brown - another old white guy
Cory Booker - Spartacus!
Gavin Newsom - even CA hates him
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - Oh please, oh please, oh please run this moron!

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/16/wapo-presents-the-top-10-dem-presidential-candidates-in-2024-guess-whos-not-in-the-top-2/
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: HankB on April 16, 2022, 06:58:23 PM
From what I remember seeing on TV during the debates, the only one even flirting with sanity is Klobuchar - the others are practically bark-at-the-moon lunatics.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Bogie on April 17, 2022, 12:55:39 AM
The progressive pseudoreligion requires all adherents to be even more progressive than any others. There is no level of "okay." All that exists is the extreme.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: K Frame on April 17, 2022, 08:39:01 AM
Ocommunist-Cortez would, I think, just barely slip in under the age requirement for a president.

Of course, if she missed it, that would just be the most cisnormal white male racist thing ever...
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: WLJ on April 17, 2022, 09:06:41 AM
In this issue of Pravda you will find the list of CCCP candidates you will be allowed to vote for
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: lee n. field on April 17, 2022, 09:14:56 AM
Here's the top ten who the Washington Post thinks should run in 2024:

Here’s the list in order from one to ten:

President Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Kamala Harris
Elizabeth Warren
Amy Klobuchar
Roy Cooper
Sherrod Brown
Cory Booker
Gavin Newsom
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/16/wapo-presents-the-top-10-dem-presidential-candidates-in-2024-guess-whos-not-in-the-top-2/

Same old clown train, with some added "who dat?" names.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Ben on April 17, 2022, 09:39:12 AM
Same old clown train, with some added "who dat?" names.

And a certain person conspicuously missing.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: RocketMan on April 17, 2022, 09:54:20 AM
And a certain person conspicuously missing.  :laugh:

I noticed that.  I wonder if she's pissed about being left off the list?  Hopefully all the WaPo's editors life insurance is paid up.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: HankB on April 17, 2022, 09:56:03 AM
I noticed that.  I wonder if she's pissed about being left off the list?  Hopefully all the WaPo's editors life insurance is paid up.
Is Arkancide still a thing?
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: WLJ on April 17, 2022, 10:01:26 AM
I noticed that.  I wonder if she's pissed about being left off the list?  Hopefully all the WaPo's editors life insurance is paid up.

President Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Kamala Harris
Elizabeth Warren
Amy Klobuchar
Roy Cooper
Sherrod Brown
Cory Booker
Gavin Newsom
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Did not kill themselves
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Northwoods on April 17, 2022, 11:19:09 AM
Ocommunist-Cortez would, I think, just barely slip in under the age requirement for a president.

Of course, if she missed it, that would just be the most cisnormal white male racist thing ever...

She’ll turn 35 about 3 weeks before the election in 2024.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Ben on April 17, 2022, 11:34:55 AM
I just looked, and the youngest President in history was Teddy Roosevelt at 42 years and 10 months. I was actually surprised as I thought it might have been one of the earlier presidents.

https://www.thoughtco.com/youngest-presidents-in-american-history-3368124
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: French G. on April 17, 2022, 11:48:02 AM
HRCs ship has sailed. I am still pretty sure that Chelsea Clinton will be brought forth to stand.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: bedlamite on April 17, 2022, 11:56:46 AM
HRCs ship has sailed. I am still pretty sure that Chelsea Clinton will be brought forth to stand.

Not this time, she needs another public office first. Watch for a Senate race, probably a few years from now after H is out of the picture.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Northwoods on April 17, 2022, 01:01:42 PM
HRCs ship has sailed. I am still pretty sure that Chelsea Clinton will be brought forth to stand.

She’s old enough (already 42), but I agree with bedlamite.  She would have to win something elective first.  Or have a record as a business executive or something of significance in a political or leadership avenue.

Trump was a businessman and celebrity before getting elected.  Obama was a senator (and the least qualified potus in living memory).  W was TX governor, Clinton was AR governor, HW was VP and head of the CIA, Regan was CA governor and a celebrity, Ford was unelected but had been VP and a powerful R in lower offices.  Nixon was a previous VP, LBJ was a VP and powerful in TX politics before that.  JKF was a Senator (for a lot longer than Obama) and in the HOR before that.  Ike had been the commanding general in WWII.  Truman was a VP, a senator and a judge.  FDR was governor of NY and a military bureaucrat.

Chelsea, so far, hasn’t done anything of note publicly, whether in business, entertainment or politics.  And as powerful as the Clintons were I don’t think she’d be able to muster the backing anymore to use her name as launch pad to the Oval Office.  At least not directly.

I could maybe see making a play for a NY senate seat, or maybe Lt Governor or something high level in the NY state cabinet.  From there she could aim for a high level federal cabinet position or VP slot.  If she starts doing those things I could see the possibility of a run in 2032 or 2036.  But nothing she’s done so far makes me think she has the slightest interest in doing anything like that.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: K Frame on April 18, 2022, 08:35:41 AM
She’ll turn 35 about 3 weeks before the election in 2024.

Yep, that's what I was coming up with, as well.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: K Frame on April 18, 2022, 08:42:51 AM
Trump was a businessman and celebrity before getting elected.  Obama was a senator (and the least qualified potus in living memory).  W was TX governor, Clinton was AR governor, HW was VP and head of the CIA, Regan was CA governor and a celebrity, Ford was unelected but had been VP and a powerful R in lower offices.  Nixon was a previous VP, LBJ was a VP and powerful in TX politics before that.  JKF was a Senator (for a lot longer than Obama) and in the HOR before that.  Ike had been the commanding general in WWII.  Truman was a VP, a senator and a judge.  FDR was governor of NY and a military bureaucrat.


Nixon had also been elected as a representative and then as a senator from California.

LBJ had also been elected as a representative and then as a senator, but from Texas.

Interesting tidbit about Gerald Ford... he served over 20 years as a rep from Michigan and never proposed a single bill. His ultimate goal, apparently, was to become Speaker of the House.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: HankB on April 18, 2022, 10:25:17 AM
. . . Interesting tidbit about Gerald Ford... he served over 20 years as a rep from Michigan and never proposed a single bill. . . .
My first thought was "We need 434 more House members like that!"   >:D

Yeah, yeah, I know they have to vote on things like the budget. But aside from annual housekeeping items (which they still frequently screw up) most other bills do things TO us rather than FOR us. And with over 240 years of legislation already on the books, I think we're pretty well "over-lawed" already.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Boomhauer on April 18, 2022, 10:51:21 AM
Oh excellent nobody competent and likable.

Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: MechAg94 on April 18, 2022, 12:14:23 PM
My first thought was "We need 434 more House members like that!"   >:D

Yeah, yeah, I know they have to vote on things like the budget. But aside from annual housekeeping items (which they still frequently screw up) most other bills do things TO us rather than FOR us. And with over 240 years of legislation already on the books, I think we're pretty well "over-lawed" already.
I am sure he voted for plenty of laws. 

One idea might be to expand the number of House members.  Maybe we should not have fixed it at that number.  If there were a couple thousand of them, maybe they wouldn't be so self important.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Northwoods on April 18, 2022, 12:22:51 PM
I am sure he voted for plenty of laws. 

One idea might be to expand the number of House members.  Maybe we should not have fixed it at that number.  If there were a couple thousand of them, maybe they wouldn't be so self important.

No, then we’d just have a couple thousand set-important blowhards telling us how to live instead of a few hundred self-important blowhards.  It might dilute them a little but there’d still be a powerful core of a few dozen running everything just like now.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: HankB on April 19, 2022, 09:54:20 AM
No, then we’d just have a couple thousand set-important blowhards telling us how to live instead of a few hundred self-important blowhards.  It might dilute them a little but there’d still be a powerful core of a few dozen running everything just like now.
Change House membership to a three-year term and then each year randomly draft 1/3 of the members from a list of registered voters in their district between the ages of 25 and 60 who pass a criminal & drug background check. (This was partially inspired by William F. Buckley who said he'd prefer to be governed by people chosen from the Manhattan phone book rather than by the faculty at Harvard.)
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: dogmush on April 19, 2022, 10:20:05 AM
Good in theory,  but I'd bet money we'd just end up with career staffers running more *expletive deleted*it than they already do.

Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 19, 2022, 10:40:12 AM
Change House membership to a three-year term and then each year randomly draft 1/3 of the members from a list of registered voters in their district between the ages of 25 and 60 who pass a criminal & drug background check. (This was partially inspired by William F. Buckley who said he'd prefer to be governed by people chosen from the Manhattan phone book rather than by the faculty at Harvard.)

Look at that, you re-created slavery.  Or at least involuntary servitude.

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Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: Northwoods on April 19, 2022, 01:40:46 PM
Change House membership to a three-year term and then each year randomly draft 1/3 of the members from a list of registered voters in their district between the ages of 25 and 60 who pass a criminal & drug background check. (This was partially inspired by William F. Buckley who said he'd prefer to be governed by people chosen from the Manhattan phone book rather than by the faculty at Harvard.)

Boston phone book, but yes.

They’d have to guarantee that my job would be waiting for me after those 3 years were up.  I don’t want to wind up utterly ruined by a 3 year term in DC.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: charby on April 19, 2022, 03:21:43 PM
Looking that list, it's going to be a Pete Buttigieg type person if Biden doesn't run. Not necessarily gay with a same sex spouse, but some who is/was a mayor of a large city, or state governor, younger, well spoken, likeable personality, and not a crazy eyed emotional loon on camera.

Doesn't mean they will win, but it they will be them on the ticket.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: MechAg94 on April 19, 2022, 03:38:22 PM
I heard the opinion that they would strap Biden to a gurney and roll him around the campaign trial rather than run Harris or one of the other 2018 candidates.  Lots can happen in 2 years so who knows.
Title: Re: WaPo's List of their 2024 Presidential Nominees
Post by: WLJ on April 19, 2022, 04:44:23 PM
About that
If there's any truth to this

Biden Told Obama He Will Run for Reelection in 2024
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2022/04/19/biden-told-obama-he-will-run-for-reelection-in-2024-n2606062