Discrimination: it's ok when we do it

[Balog]

http://outfrontonline.com/news/pro-lgbt-baker-slapped-religious-discrimination-complaint/#.VLqpXW9jbAc.facebook

Man goes to pro-homo Colorado bakery, requests fairly benign cake with anti-sodomy messaging. Baker refuses, gets sued for discrimination. Leagues of social justice warriors descend to justify why their form of hate and discrimination is ok. The comments are hilarious.

[MillCreek]

Something I had not thought of before, from reading the comments: would it be discriminatory to refuse to make a cake requested to have Nazi or KKK symbols on it?

[roo_ster]

If we don't force bakers to bake cakes for bents and kluxers(1), the terrorists will have won.

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Given empirical evidence we have all seen in the news, I have come to the conclusion that decriminalized homosexuality and the First Amendment are incompatible.  IOW, decriminalized homosexuality is corrosive to civil and natural rights.  Pretty much a particular case of the general case that democracy & prosperity plant the seeds of their own destruction.



(1) Bent kluxers qualify for a 15% discount.

[Perd Hapley]

Something I had not thought of before, from reading the comments: would it be discriminatory to refuse to make a cake requested to have Nazi or KKK symbols on it?

Of course not. It would be taking a stand against injustice and racism and teh pay-tree-arkey, and all other macro and micro-aggressions.

Also, I'm upset that your post was not preceded by a trigger warning. 

[Hawkmoon]

Of course not. It would be taking a stand against injustice and racism and teh pay-tree-arkey, and all other macro and micro-aggressions.

Also, I'm upset that your post was not preceded by a trigger warning. 

What trigger  warning would be appropriate?

NSFSCM? *































* Not Safe For Straight Christian Makes

[HankB]

What trigger  warning would be appropriate?

NSFSCM? *

Shouldn't they put that label on the Democratic Party?

[zahc]

Given empirical evidence we have all seen in the news, I have come to the conclusion that decriminalized homosexuality and the First Amendment are incompatible. 

Please elaborate.

[Perd Hapley]

What trigger warning would be appropriate?

You monster! If you're going to use words like "tr**ger," you should put some kind of warning on it. The word "tr**ger" reminds me of all the people murdered by the NRA, and how much it traumatizes me to think of it. Also, "tr**ger" sounds like "n**ger," which also traumatizes me, because I heard a mean may say it once, in a movie.

Check yur privilige. 

[Firethorn]

Please elaborate.

Indeed.  We have to face the fact that there will always be those attempting to challenge the first amendment.  Generally on BOTH sides of any coin.

Roo_ster, remember that things generally make the news because they're unusual and/or titillating.  I figure that 99% of the time this sort of stuff is handled quietly whether it's a pro or anti-gay bakery.  Most of the time BOTH aren't aholes.

If the bakery is the 'ahole' and refuses, often the client isn't and simply goes elsewhere.  If the bakery isn't stuck-up, they bake the darn cake per the customer's request and the customer doesn't have anything they can go to the news to show their butthurt off over.

Given the news about what happened to the anti-gay bakery, if I was a pro-gay bakery I'd be on the lookout for stuff like this.  Yes, I'd give them their darn cake.  I'd probably give the KKK a cake.

[230RN]

Oh, the parallel between the "well-dressed gentleman" and the recent in-your-face 2A demonstrators just jumps out at me.  As well as the Westboro Baptist Church "funeral demonstrators."  

Pushy, pushy, pushy immature aholes.

The (apparently) requested writings on the cake probably would have violated my own principles of good taste and I probably would have refused as well on that ground.  I might not even have offered to let him use the squishy pastry lettering thing to write his own message, and probably just 86ed him.  (And the gay community has a pretty good lawyer base to fall back on.  Probably no trouble finding pro bono representation up the yin-yang on this matter.)

But is it time to have the principles of "good taste" versus "bad taste" codified into law?

ETA:  Oh, Jeeze, maybe I shouldn't have used the term "up the yin-yang."  Apologies.  It was in poor taste.

Terry

[Hawkmoon]

You monster! If you're going to use words like "tr**ger," you should put some kind of warning on it. The word "tr**ger" reminds me of all the people murdered by the NRA, and how much it traumatizes me to think of it. Also, "tr**ger" sounds like "n**ger," which also traumatizes me, because I heard a mean may say it once, in a movie.

Check yur privilige.

You used it first! I was so traumatized by your unwarned use of a call for warning that I was too paralyzed to post the warning that you should have posted.

Nyah, nyah.

[Scout26]

Their argument seems to boil down to "It's okay to discriminate against discriminators." 


Hats off to the well dressed gentlemen.  I would contribute to his legal fees and urge him to continue on in his quest. 

Nothing like watching SJW's being hoist upon their own petard.

 

[Balog]

Their argument seems to boil down to "It's okay to discriminate against discriminators." 


Hats off to the well dressed gentlemen.  I would contribute to his legal fees and urge him to continue on in his quest. 

Nothing like watching SJW's being hoist upon their own petard.

 

I actually predicted exactly this sort of thing (on this forum iirc) when the decided to start persecuting Christians with these silly accommodation laws.

[TechMan]

I actually predicted exactly this sort of thing (on this forum iirc) when the decided to start persecuting Christians with these silly accommodation laws.

You mean there are other forums out on the interwebs?

[MicroBalrog]

Given empirical evidence we have all seen in the news, I have come to the conclusion that decriminalized homosexuality and the First Amendment are incompatible.  IOW, decriminalized homosexuality is corrosive to civil and natural rights.  Pretty much a particular case of the general case that democracy & prosperity plant the seeds of their own destruction.

Empiricism? Really?