Four dead in mall shooting 65 miles north of Seattle

[Jim147]

Crap just google his name

[MillCreek]

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/arcan-cetin-cascade-mall-burlington-washington-shooting-suspect-shooter-name/

He used a .22 rifle that he stole from his father.  A native of Turkey, he graduated from Oak Harbor High School in 2015.

[Hawkmoon]

I just updated my spreadsheet to include the St. Cloud Mall stabbings, and this incident. I also stumbled across a theater shooting in Lafayette, LA, in July of 2015 that I didn't know about. I'm certain I've missed more than one, but I spent a lot of time on-line looking for mass killings, and I entered every one I could find going all the way back to 1784.

Some interesting statistics come out of this. The Democrats are gung-ho to ban so-called "assault" weapons, but they're also all in favor of admitting Muslims from terrorist hotbeds into the U.S. So take a look at these numbers:

Total number killed in mass murder type incidents: 3,724. Number killed by "assault" weapons: 122 (3.28%). Number killed by Muslim terrorists: 3,056 (82.06%).

Total number wounded/injured in mass murder type incidents: 7,528. Number wounded/injured by "assault" weapons: 155 (2.06%). Number wounded/injured by Muslim terrorists: 6,406 (85.10%).

I think the Democrats have their priorities misaligned.

[Perd Hapley]

I again propose that we make a deal to allow more rape-ugees, if the Left first joins us in repealing NFA, GCA, etc. And every state would need to allow open/concealed/machine gun carry, etc. Bring 'em in, if you want. We'll all tool up to keep an eye on 'em.

[Jim147]

I just updated my spreadsheet to include the St. Cloud Mall stabbings, and this incident. I also stumbled across a theater shooting in Lafayette, LA, in July of 2015 that I didn't know about. I'm certain I've missed more than one, but I spent a lot of time on-line looking for mass killings, and I entered every one I could find going all the way back to 1784.

Some interesting statistics come out of this. The Democrats are gung-ho to ban so-called "assault" weapons, but they're also all in favor of admitting Muslims from terrorist hotbeds into the U.S. So take a look at these numbers:

Total number killed in mass murder type incidents: 3,724. Number killed by "assault" weapons: 122 (3.28%). Number killed by Muslim terrorists: 3,056 (82.06%).

Total number wounded/injured in mass murder type incidents: 7,528. Number wounded/injured by "assault" weapons: 155 (2.06%). Number wounded/injured by Muslim terrorists: 6,406 (85.10%).

I think the Democrats have their priorities misaligned.

The politicians always do but thinks for your info I'm going defcon3.

[Northwoods]

One of the dead was an ex-girlfriend.  The elderly victim was that girl's grandmother.  The other 3 appear at this time to have been unfortunate bystanders.

[roo_ster]

[MillCreek]

http://www.king5.com/news/local/five-people-dead-in-cascade-mall-shooting-in-burlington/324940198

Apparently the ex-girlfriend has not worked at that Macy's for some time, and was not one of the victims, nor is the elderly woman related to the ex-girlfriend.  Although the perpetrator may have picked that Macy's because the ex-girlfriend used to work there.

[mtnbkr]

Guy don't look Mexican to me. Hair is wrong and completion is odd.

Looks like any number of Hispanics I've seen.  "They" are just as varied as Anglos depending on which mix of Spanish and native Indian their background contains. 

Case in point, I was meeting with a customer in Florida this week.  Everyone from the customer side had Hispanic-sounding names, yet they all had variations on Anglo or Hispanic features.  One guy's name couldn't have been more Hispanic, yet he spoke with no discernible accent and looked as white-bread Anglo as one could.

Chris

[Mannlicher]

be that as it may, this guy was muslim, turkish, a known trouble maker that should have been in prison.  Almost everyone killed in America today, in one of these types of attacks, is being killed by a muslim.

[RoadKingLarry]

When was the last shoot-em-up that wasn't perpetrated by a Johnny Jihadi?

[dogmush]

When was the last shoot-em-up that wasn't perpetrated by a Johnny Jihadi?

Kinda depends on how you define "shoot em up".

A ghetto kid cut loose in a bar wounding 10 on Sep 4th of this year, no aloha snack bar.  There was the July 25 spray and pray at a "under 18" club in FL.

If you want to mandate actual deaths to be a "shoot em up" then there was that black Army vet that ambushed the cops in LA July 17th.

I skipped over a couple of >5 dead shootings on the list because they happened in the victim's homes.  Not really "shoot 'em up" fare.

I have zero love for Islam.  I find it a backwards, crappy belief system that is incompatible with individual liberty (Not surprising when the hole thing is named after "submission").  But Americans can shoot each other up in good numbers just fine without Allah.  Something that's worth remembering, as I'd bet you get a lot closer to ghetto folks in your day to day life than radical Muslims.

[Hawkmoon]

When was the last shoot-em-up that wasn't perpetrated by a Johnny Jihadi?

October 1, 2015 -- Umpqua Community College in Oregon. Nine people killed, nine people wounded/injured.

[Perd Hapley]

The mass murder gap: we infidels are falling behind.

[Hawkmoon]

Total number killed in mass murder type incidents: 3,724. Number killed by "assault" weapons: 122 (3.28%). Number killed by Muslim terrorists: 3,056 (82.06%).

Total number wounded/injured in mass murder type incidents: 7,528. Number wounded/injured by "assault" weapons: 155 (2.06%). Number wounded/injured by Muslim terrorists: 6,406 (85.10%).

I just added a couple of other incidents that I had missed. New numbers:

Total number killed in mass murder type incidents: 3,736. Number killed by "assault" weapons: 130 (3.48%). Number killed by Muslim terrorists: 3,060 (81.91%).

Total number wounded/injured in mass murder type incidents: 7,542. Number wounded/injured by "assault" weapons: 169 (2.24%). Number wounded/injured by Muslim terrorists: 6,406 (84.94%).

If things continue as they have been moving, I'm going to have to start tracking a third category: people killed or wounded due to Black Lives Matter incited violence. Maybe that should be categorized as "domestic terrorism"? That might be a useful data point -- it would be a category under which to include the Murrah Building bombing in Oklahoma City.

[Hawkmoon]

I notice a slight shift in the narrative now. Instead of the idiotic "There is no indication that this was a terrorist act" line, the most recent articles I've seen now have the aw-thaw-rih-tays saying that they "haven't ruled out" terrorism as a motive. Considering that the [alleged] perp is a disaffected Muslm immigrant, I suppose they pretty much have to take that position to avoid looking totally stupid.

[Scout26]

When was the last shoot-em-up that wasn't perpetrated by a Johnny Jihadi?

Every weekend in Chicago....

[MillCreek]

He has already confessed to the police.  He used a 10/22 with a 25 round magazine, all of which was stolen from his father.

Lots of stories in the local media about how he was socially maladjusted and liked to grope women, even in middle and high school.

[Hawkmoon]

Has a motive been established yet?

[MillCreek]

Has a motive been established yet?

Nothing yet that has been released.

[RoadKingLarry]

Has a motive been established yet?

DAMN YOU NRA!
DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

[Angel Eyes]

DAMN YOU NRA!
DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

Settle down, Wil Wheaton.

https://twitter.com/wilw/status/742059741833101312

[Hawkmoon]

Settle down, Wil Wheaton.

https://twitter.com/wilw/status/742059741833101312

Wow!

‏@JWCDreamshaper Jun 12

@HealyIV @wilw the NRA continues to help make it easier for people like this to find easy access to assault weapons.

So the Ruger 10/22 take-down is now an assault weapon. Who knew?

And I wish @JWCDreamshaper would have explained how the NRA contributed to the dirtbag stealing the firearms from his father (or is it stepfather?).

[Perd Hapley]

Wow!

So the Ruger 10/22 take-down is now an assault weapon. Who knew?

And I wish @JWCDreamshaper would have explained how the NRA contributed to the dirtbag stealing the firearms from his father (or is it stepfather?).

That's from a few months ago.

[Hawkmoon]

That's from a few months ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYoNL4g5Vg