If you observe Good Friday...

[K Frame]

Years ago I read something about the placement of the sign...

The author was making the case that Aramaic (or whatever dead language the original accounts were written in) had a problem with prepositions.

He was saying that it was more likely that the sign was hung around Jesus' neck...

[Gewehr98]

In the traditional (Wisconsin Synod Lutheran) view, the sign was a very simple "INRI", short for Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum, Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews.  Latin had no letter "J", "U" or "W", those being added to the alphabet in the medieval times.  The letter "K" was also rarely used. 

(Freakin' 4 years of Latin 25 years ago, and I guess that's one part of my brain that hasn't dissolved from PTSD!    )

[Strings]

While the rest dribbled out your ear?

 Having the sign hung around his neck would seem (to me) to be the most logical...

[Gewehr98]

No longer dribbling out my ear.  The VA is giving me big pills for it, which I stuff in my ears.   

[Perd Hapley]

In the traditional (Wisconsin Synod Lutheran) view, the sign was a very simple "INRI", short for Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum, Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews.  Latin had no letter "J", "U" or "W", those being added to the alphabet in the medieval times.  The letter "K" was also rarely used. 

(Freakin' 4 years of Latin 25 years ago, and I guess that's one part of my brain that hasn't dissolved from PTSD!    )

I guess they have a reason for that view, but it seems a little odd that they would only use initials for something like that.  It's not as if it were a common phrase.  Not then, anyway.   

But the sign was written in three languages, no?  Latin, Aramaic and Spanish.   

[Perd Hapley]

Strings, Maned and others:

I'm glad we can chat about this without offending one another.  (Mostly.)  Thanks. 

Somehow, a certain someone skipped this thread. 

[lee n. field]

Aramaic (or whatever dead language the original accounts were written in)

Greek.  (And don't nobody start in about "Hebrew originals" -- they don't exist.)

[Perd Hapley]

How about Aramaic originals?   

[K Frame]

OK, it was the Old Testament that was originally written, in part, in Aramaic.

Quite a few Bible sites I've googled do say, however, that Hebrew texts did constitute a major part of the original texts of the Old Testament...

[Perd Hapley]

The vast majority of the OT was in Hebrew.  That's pretty certain.

Lee was talking about the New Testament, which was mostly Greek.  But there are theories that some books of the New Testament were originally written in Hebrew or Aramaic, but were translated and more widely distributed in Greek.  I guess Lee doesn't buy that.   


And just in case you wanted to know, Aramaic is still spoken today, so I don't think it would be a dead language. 

[K Frame]

I don't speak it, so it's dead to me.

[lee n. field]

How about Aramaic originals?   laugh

Aramaic originals of New Testament documents -- we have none.  Nothing but Greek.

But there are theories that some books of the New Testament were originally written in Hebrew or Aramaic, but were translated and more widely distributed in Greek.  I guess Lee doesn't buy that.   smiley

No, I do not.  The closest we actually have is a statement in Eusebius' Ecclesiastical History, from the time of Constantine (320-ish, if I remember right), that there was a Hebrew original for Matthew's gospel.

[LAK]

Fistful

Then I hope you have a good one. I am not working today, so I get to go to a noon service.  If I can find one.  My church won't have one this year.   

If you think about it, Good Friday is really the most important day for Christians.  It is finished.

Why, Fistful, I shall suffice to remark that I am equally surprized that a coincidence theorist kook bows to several thousand years of recorded history, and creation. 

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[Perd Hapley]

Coincidence theorist?