Post by: Target Farget on November 15, 2006, 10:43:07 AM
caution: gore and violence against terroist scumbags
those arent rocks or dirt flying from the bullit impacts, theyre parts and pieces of what used to be brave and glorious Taliban Warriors.
let's have an oo-ra! for our boys over there and please take a moment to pray for the safety of our troops and pass this message on if you truly support them.
Post by: wingnutx on November 15, 2006, 10:51:19 AM
Post by: Target Farget on November 15, 2006, 10:57:31 AM
although the range is hard to guess at in the first 3 shots there is no doubt that it`s at least a half a mile if not more in the 4th shot. no other rifle has an effective range at 1/2 mile or more.
if that last shot was a Prarrie Dog at such a range, then that`s equivalant to shooting a dime at 100 yards with a .22.
i don`t think even Dan`l Boone was that good.
sorry, your theory don`t wash with me.
Post by: K Frame on November 15, 2006, 11:08:22 AM
It was a tongue in cheek joke.
Post by: wingnutx on November 15, 2006, 11:13:25 AM
Here's a similar one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzYVcQVf-Bo
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In the more rugged areas on the slopes of mountains and in the valley areas nearby, mountain lions, bobcats, marmots,
Rockchucks are also knows as Yellow-bellied Marmots.
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 15, 2006, 11:13:51 AM
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Those are "rock chucks" being shot with a varmint rifle
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i in my twenty years of hunting prairie dogs have many differents types of kills.
A rock chuck and a prairie dog are two completely diff'rent critters. Chucks are significantly larger than prairie dogs and tend to live in mountainous areas. The vids are of chucks being it with hit with rifles.
Brad
Post by: wingnutx on November 15, 2006, 11:16:36 AM
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Post by: BakerMikeRomeo on November 15, 2006, 11:19:39 AM
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what happens when our troops get to use .50s against the enemy?
you fail the internet.
~GnSx
Post by: 280plus on November 15, 2006, 11:21:37 AM
Post by: Target Farget on November 15, 2006, 11:22:19 AM
I watched the footage over and over but must admit at first i wasnt sure what was been shot. Take another look. The way those body parts went flying weather you believe they were Prarrie Dogs or not can only be done with a large cal weapon. Ive shot many different animals in my life time from deer to rats spaning over my my years using .270 cal down to .22 and they came no where near doing the damge i saw on that footage. My shot gun at close range may have blown a rabit in half or a limb off but not projected it 50 to 100 feet in all directions. A weapon would have to have awesome hitting power to do that and at over 1/2 a mile it sure was no standart issue.
here is an email from my friend commenting on this whole thing
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i am an old u.s.naval intelligence nco.and i am amazed at the responces of some of your replyers.
evidently they have no idea of the weapons and ammo that we had even back in the fifties.after watching the video,i would guess the range at 1000 yards,the weapon as a 50 cal.the ammo as soft projectile hollow point,the target as human.
the shooter is probably navy seal.of course i am only 90-95% sure.as for all of the rest of the evidently not educated comments on here,we used to have an old saying,"don't you have anything else you should be doing?"however,it is funny to read comments from people.
evidently they have no idea of the weapons and ammo that we had even back in the fifties.after watching the video,i would guess the range at 1000 yards,the weapon as a 50 cal.the ammo as soft projectile hollow point,the target as human.
the shooter is probably navy seal.of course i am only 90-95% sure.as for all of the rest of the evidently not educated comments on here,we used to have an old saying,"don't you have anything else you should be doing?"however,it is funny to read comments from people.
Post by: MechAg94 on November 15, 2006, 11:22:41 AM
It is obvious if you look that those are small animals, not people. No one said they were prarie dogs. I have never been around mountains like that but half the Louie L'Amour novels talked about marmuts and stuff.
I never heard if anyone ever proved it was 22-250. It could be 300 Winmag for all I know.
Lastly, this has been posted on multiple sites over the 3 or 4 years. It is nothing new and it certainly it not humans being shot.
Post by: mtnbkr on November 15, 2006, 11:31:47 AM
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i am an old u.s.naval intelligence nco
False authority syndrome.In the 4th shot, you can even see the critter scramble like a rodent.
Chris
Post by: Target Farget on November 15, 2006, 11:39:30 AM
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 15, 2006, 11:42:24 AM
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Prarrie Dogs my foot, the first shoot clearly shows a guy kneeling on a black mate praying facing to the right of your monitor and if you look closly you can see his weapon leaning against a back pack in the forground towards the shooter. If you look even closer you can see him slightly bobbing back and forworth as he is praying.
I watched the footage over and over but must admit at first i wasnt sure what was been shot. Take another look. The way those body parts went flying weather you believe they were Prarrie Dogs or not can only be done with a large cal weapon. Ive shot many different animals in my life time from deer to rats spaning over my my years using .270 cal down to .22 and they came no where near doing the damge i saw on that footage. My shot gun at close range may have blown a rabit in half or a limb off but not projected it 50 to 100 feet in all directions. A weapon would have to have awesome hitting power to do that and at over 1/2 a mile it sure was no standart issue.
here is an email from my friend commenting on this whole thing
I watched the footage over and over but must admit at first i wasnt sure what was been shot. Take another look. The way those body parts went flying weather you believe they were Prarrie Dogs or not can only be done with a large cal weapon. Ive shot many different animals in my life time from deer to rats spaning over my my years using .270 cal down to .22 and they came no where near doing the damge i saw on that footage. My shot gun at close range may have blown a rabit in half or a limb off but not projected it 50 to 100 feet in all directions. A weapon would have to have awesome hitting power to do that and at over 1/2 a mile it sure was no standart issue.
here is an email from my friend commenting on this whole thing
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i am an old u.s.naval intelligence nco.and i am amazed at the responces of some of your replyers.
evidently they have no idea of the weapons and ammo that we had even back in the fifties.after watching the video,i would guess the range at 1000 yards,the weapon as a 50 cal.the ammo as soft projectile hollow point,the target as human.
the shooter is probably navy seal.of course i am only 90-95% sure.as for all of the rest of the evidently not educated comments on here,we used to have an old saying,"don't you have anything else you should be doing?"however,it is funny to read comments from people.
i am an old u.s.naval intelligence nco.and i am amazed at the responces of some of your replyers.
evidently they have no idea of the weapons and ammo that we had even back in the fifties.after watching the video,i would guess the range at 1000 yards,the weapon as a 50 cal.the ammo as soft projectile hollow point,the target as human.
the shooter is probably navy seal.of course i am only 90-95% sure.as for all of the rest of the evidently not educated comments on here,we used to have an old saying,"don't you have anything else you should be doing?"however,it is funny to read comments from people.
A) Calibrate your monitor
B) Have your eyeglass prescription checked
C) Don't believe everything you see on the internet
This vid has been all over the internet for years. The myth that it's a vid of terrorists being hit with a .50 BMG was dispelled long ago. It's chucks being hit at varying distances with magnum-class rifles. Nothing more.
Hitting a 20 lb varmint with something like a .25 WSSM that's carrying still carrying 1500 ft/lb of energy @300 yds (115gr BTSP) is going to do some damage. Heck, the same cartridge at around 100 yds is enough to take a 50 lb coyote and flip it in the air.
Brad
p.s. - You keep referring to "Prairie Dogs". It's not. It's rock chucks, AKA yellow-bellied marmots. Two different critters, and the chucks live in mountainous areas.
(seems like all that's been said before somewhere
...)
Post by: wingnutx on November 15, 2006, 11:56:15 AM
Not because they deal crack.
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 15, 2006, 12:31:27 PM
Post by: Fly320s on November 15, 2006, 12:42:44 PM
Post by: wingnutx on November 15, 2006, 12:58:23 PM
You can tell that a seal made that first shot, 'cause you can hear him slapping his flippers together in glee after he kills the guy.
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on November 15, 2006, 01:36:42 PM
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 15, 2006, 01:56:15 PM
Brad
Post by: BakerMikeRomeo on November 15, 2006, 02:00:15 PM
and the geography of the video is nowhere near that of known prairie dog or meerkat habitats but is in fact in afghanistan!
Not a Meerkat. Not a Prarie Dog. ROCK. CHUCK. Read!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchuck
"It lives in the mountains of the western United States and Canada, including the Rocky Mountains and the Sierra Nevada."
Huh. Those rocks look a lot like mountains to me. Possibly like the ones in... the Western US and Canada? Oh. What's that sound? Can't you hear it? It's.. it's.. could it be? That's right, it's owned.
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as for all of the rest of the evidently not educated comments
Yes. Surely our "responces" and "replys" and our inability to capitalize betray our "indeniable" lack of education!
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"don't you have anything else you should be doing?"
No. Don't you have a poor, lonely Shift key just begging for some attention?
~GnSx
Post by: 280plus on November 15, 2006, 02:07:27 PM
How much rock could a rock chuck chuck if a rock chuck could chuck rock?
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 15, 2006, 02:09:56 PM
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Somebody has to ask...
How much rock could a rock chuck chuck if a rock chuck could chuck rock?
How much rock could a rock chuck chuck if a rock chuck could chuck rock?
It was inevitable...
Brad
Post by: K Frame on November 15, 2006, 02:11:59 PM
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i am an old u.s.naval intelligence nco
False authority syndrome.In the 4th shot, you can even see the critter scramble like a rodent.
Chris
You'd also think that someone who supposedly spent time in Naval Intelligence would spell just a tad better.
"evidently they have no idea of the weapons and ammo that we had even back in the fifties"
Interesting that someone who claims to have been in Naval Intelligence would also be a supposed authority on weapons.
I say without hesitation that the people here are FAR more cognizant of the types of weapons and munitions available.
"after watching the video,i would guess the range at 1000 yards,the weapon as a 50 cal.the ammo as soft projectile hollow point,the target as human."
Soft projectile? Such as Charmin toilet tissue? Squeezably soft and hyper deadly, to boot?
Give it up.
These videos have been THOROUGHLY debunked.
They're not shot in Talibanland. They're not shooting at Taliban.
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 15, 2006, 02:15:46 PM
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They're not shot in Talibanland. They're not shooting at Taliban.
...I do not like green eggs and ham,
I do not like them, Sam I Am.
(okay, so it's been a long day. Sue me)
(wait, on second thought...)
Brad
Post by: Target Farget on November 15, 2006, 02:16:19 PM
who would dress up as an aniaml to get shot sounds like you saw that episode on csi las vegas where the animal pervert is shot by a coyote.
Post by: K Frame on November 15, 2006, 02:19:00 PM
Prairie Dog
Meerkat
Post by: K Frame on November 15, 2006, 02:20:18 PM
who would dress up as an aniaml to get shot sounds like you saw that episode on csi las vegas where the animal pervert is shot by a coyote.
HUH?
Buddy, you say we're not making sense?
Step away from the bottle.
Please.
Post by: Target Farget on November 15, 2006, 02:21:28 PM
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=4952.0
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 15, 2006, 02:21:57 PM
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..some of you make absolutely no sense.
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who would dress up as an aniaml to get shot sounds like you saw that episode on csi las vegas where the animal pervert is shot by a coyote.
Umm, you were saying...?
You really shouldn't smoke crack and post.
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please stop insulting me i know i might not type the best but i tr.y
Fella, let me give ya a little friendly advice. The folks here are a good lot. They give lots of newbies the benefit of the doubt. However, when you step up to the plate and - in your first day of posting - put up something so old and so thoroughly debunked then start defending it with what can only be described as laughably inept observations, well... you should expect a little incredulity, ribbing, and no small amount of snickering aimed in your general direction.
If you want to join us here at APS we'll welcome you with open arms (screens?). Just understand that this bunch of folks are about the most level-headed, common-sensical, knowledgeable, and perceptive group you'll ever meet. They enjoy a good story, some well-wrought satire, and even the occasional semi-dirty joke. What we won't put up with is overtly outrageous behaviour, irrational responses, or insultingly poor attempts at inflammatory rhetoric.
We will also educate. If the statement, thought process, or proferred information is incorrect, we will correct it. Sometimes at great length. You've just experienced that. We've all been corrected here. A lot. But that's why we're here - a group of like minded individuals in a general conversation about just about anything. We all listen and learn or talk and train, depending on the material and our level of interest or expertise.
Brad
Post by: K Frame on November 15, 2006, 02:30:38 PM
The first is a picture of landscape in Afghanistan.
The second is a picture from the American West.
Kind of hard to tell the difference, eh?
Post by: BakerMikeRomeo on November 15, 2006, 03:34:55 PM
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who would dress up as an aniaml to get shot sounds like you saw that episode on csi las vegas where the animal pervert is shot by a coyote.
*So-And-So* Um...
... 'kay.
~GnSx
Post by: 280plus on November 15, 2006, 05:06:42 PM
Post by: grampster on November 15, 2006, 06:07:50 PM
Post by: caseydog on November 15, 2006, 06:22:13 PM
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I watched the footage over and over but must admit at first i wasnt sure what was been shot. Take another look. The way those body parts went flying weather you believe they were Prarrie Dogs or not can only be done with a large cal weapon. Ive shot many different animals in my life time from deer to rats spaning over my my years using .270 cal down to .22 and they came no where near doing the damge i saw on that footage.
http://www.dogbegone.com/video.htm
Ray
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 15, 2006, 06:25:36 PM
Post by: Fly320s on November 15, 2006, 06:41:59 PM
Post by: brimic on November 15, 2006, 08:27:16 PM
Post by: Gun Runner on November 15, 2006, 10:25:17 PM
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Marmots are not hunted for sport but are sometimes killed by farmers.
It appears that these "things" are being shot for sport, which means one of two things:
- They are small furry critters but NOT Rock Chucks
or
- They are Taliban fighters being shot by a Navy SEAL with a .50 BMG from 1,000yds with hollow points. I would bet a PO1 from Seal Team 6, I'm 98% certain.
Post by: K Frame on November 16, 2006, 03:52:08 AM
The person who made that Wikipedia entry didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
Why look at this!
A page on SPORT hunting the yellow-bellied marmot! By the Colorado Division of Wildlife, none the less! http://ndis.nrel.colostate.edu/huntingspx.asp?SpCode=050087
Someone had better update that page on Wikipedia...
Post by: roo_ster on November 16, 2006, 04:52:17 AM
That's why they are called "rock" chucks.
Not because they deal crack.
Good thing I gave up soda at work. Now, all I have to do is wait for they keyboard to dry & not have to worry about sticky residue.
Not because they deal crack.
Post by: theCZ on November 16, 2006, 05:03:00 AM
This video is a pretty good varmint video, I'd also recommend "Dog Be Gone" for similar arobatics.
Post by: wingnutx on November 16, 2006, 05:05:35 AM
I would bet a PO1 from Seal Team 6, I'm 98% certain.
I dunno, that looks like a 2nd class did the shooting. The weight from that extra chevron makes people dogleg to the left just a hair, and a CPO would never put down his coffee cup long enough to make a shot like that.
Post by: 280plus on November 16, 2006, 05:22:33 AM
To hide the coffe stains...
Post by: wingnutx on November 16, 2006, 05:30:20 AM
Years of coffee stains down the drain
Post by: 280plus on November 16, 2006, 05:58:37 AM
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 16, 2006, 08:28:17 AM
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Yup, I knew a kid who took Comet to one old guy's cup thinking he WAS doing him a favor. Hoo boy, the fur was a flyin' that day too!
.Probably got about the same response as my cousin who thought she was doing the world a favor when she scrubbed my Grandmother's skillet completely and thoroughly clean "because it was all crusted up and nasty." She didn't get invited back for a while.
Brad
Post by: roo_ster on November 16, 2006, 08:57:08 AM
Or the new wife who washed her new hubby's pipes in soap & water...
Post by: wingnutx on November 16, 2006, 09:01:35 AM
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 16, 2006, 11:50:04 AM
Yup, I knew a kid who took Comet to one old guy's cup thinking he WAS doing him a favor. Hoo boy, the fur was a flyin' that day too!
I always wash out my coffee cups. Am I doing something wrong?
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 16, 2006, 12:00:08 PM
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I always wash out my coffee cups. Am I doing something wrong?
BLASPHEMER!
Brad
Post by: Target Farget on November 17, 2006, 11:03:54 AM
I apologize to any of you fellers I offended, okay?
Post by: Eleven Mike on November 17, 2006, 11:17:49 AM
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the first shoot clearly shows a guy kneeling on a black mate praying facing to the right of your monitor and if you look closly you can see his weapon leaning against a back pack in the forground towards the shooter. If you look even closer you can see him slightly bobbing back and forworth as he is praying.
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on November 17, 2006, 11:24:54 AM
They aren't people. They are furry animals. Look closely.
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 17, 2006, 12:12:44 PM
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I apologize to any of you fellers I offended, okay?
Okay, but don't do it again or we will taunt you a second time, you crazy English knnniggit!
Brad
Post by: Iain on November 18, 2006, 02:07:28 AM
I see what's going on here. Racist. Trying to keep a chap down.
Post by: K Frame on November 18, 2006, 06:29:28 AM
BULL SHISSEN! (or however it's spelled)
The English ARE NOT a race!
England is peopled dominantly by caucasians. The United States is peopled dominantly by caucasians.
NO racism exists.
He's being Nationalist.
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 18, 2006, 07:42:07 AM
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Racist.
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He's being Nationalist.
Nope, you're both wrong. I'm being a Pythonist. Consider yourselves Monty'd!
Brad
p.s. - you both smell of elderberries!
Post by: K Frame on November 18, 2006, 07:56:15 AM