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Oh Pilots... new twist?
« on: October 30, 2008, 10:27:09 PM »
Do we think this is faked? If so how? Looks mighty real to me:

Watch OP video:

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/fg3/36165-video-full-scale-one-wing-landing-fake.html
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 10:32:45 PM »
Nothing on snopes about it...
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 10:34:21 PM »
Looks somewhat faked to me. No control cables or things that would be left hanging from where the wing was.
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 10:36:53 PM »
Fake. 
A) clean break on the wing. 
B) The landing was not real.  I've witnessed tens of thousands of landings and hundreds of emergency landings.  Dozens of crashes and crash-landings.  Soft field landings. 
C)  The video going in and out of focus conveniently during the landing.
D)  Plane parked with the wing away from the camera.

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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 10:37:54 PM »
Absolute nonsense.  Fake.
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 10:38:13 PM »
Ok, but how? helluva fake. Model plane maybe? Damn good fake job if nothing else.  =D
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 10:41:59 PM »
I do notice the writing on the remaining wing seems blurred out in a lot of the vid. Damn interesting though.
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2008, 10:42:38 PM »
Looked CG to me. A promo for a new flight sim maybe?

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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2008, 11:51:19 PM »
Fake.

looks like blue screen CG
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2008, 12:58:59 AM »

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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2008, 02:15:59 AM »
Dang, is there an echo in here or what?   :rolleyes:
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2008, 02:21:55 AM »
Uh. Didn't you guys realize that is a radio controlled plane. Part of the reason it looks fake is because of the plastic model in the canopy and something as heavy in real life has more kinetic energy stored - making it harder to stop, turn, etc. The plane in the video makes adjustments to quickly and easily to be a large, heavy aircraft.

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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2008, 05:39:36 AM »
Thank you all...
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2008, 10:42:39 AM »
Very fake.
Obviously CG, I can tell from the way the texture and lighting is.
The acting is terrible.
The camera work is purposely shoddy, and going out of focus too much.
You ever seen a real video from an air show or something?  None of them look like this.  I heard no wind, no people breathing.  The camera seemed too 'professional grade' for what this video is supposed to be.  And all the sounds sounded dubbed in (Because they were).

Also, when have you ever seen anyone scream "RUUUUUUUUN" so cheesily, so close to a soon to be wreck, and stay PERFECLTY ON TARGET with their camera?  (When he can't even stay on it when it's moving in the air hundreds of feet away.)
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2008, 12:34:40 PM »
Sure it's CG? Can't some of these little RC aircraft prop-hang (correct term?) making one wing flight possible - without the wing the model is always nose skyward.
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2008, 01:03:25 PM »
Here's a twist for you all, pilot interview afterward, faked as well? (some language!)

http://www.jamesandersson.com/interview.html
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Re: Oh Pilots... new twist?
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2008, 02:06:20 PM »
Yep, it's faked, too.

See Bogie's post above.
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Re: Oh Pilots... new twist?
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2008, 02:10:00 PM »
It's a large-scale RC plane.  Many RC planes, even large scale ones, can hover "on the prop".  It wouldn't be much of a stretch for a skilled RC pilot to bring it down like that.

I say real.

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Re: Oh Pilots... new twist?
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2008, 02:28:32 PM »
I agree with Brad that it probably is a RC and that a RC does have the power to weight ratio needed to fly like that.  There is no way that is a real aircraft.
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Re: Oh Pilots...
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2008, 02:35:03 PM »

D)  Plane parked with the wing away from the camera.

They did a hell of a job splicing the real airplane in for the R/C one.  I watched it and didn't see a "jump" or anything during the time from the landing to the pilot getting out.

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Re: Oh Pilots... new twist?
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2008, 02:40:29 PM »
I agree with Brad that it probably is a RC and that a RC does have the power to weight ratio needed to fly like that.  There is no way that is a real aircraft.

Huh?  There are plenty of aerobatic airplanes out there with HUGE power to weight ratios.

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Re: Oh Pilots... new twist?
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2008, 02:46:30 PM »
Huh?  There are plenty of aerobatic airplanes out there with HUGE power to weight ratios.

But none like an RC. 

A full scale plane has a pilot, a bunch of fuel, seating, safety gear, instrumentation, cockpit paraphernalia, hydraulic lines, pumps, actuators, redundant systems, etc.

You see RC planes prop-floating all the time.  I haven't once seen a piloted craft do that.

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Re: Oh Pilots... new twist?
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2008, 02:51:14 PM »
According to this thread - http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4652658/tm.htm - it can be done.
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Re: Oh Pilots... new twist?
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2008, 02:53:48 PM »
I've seen Extras, Pitts, and Sukhois hanging on the prop and doing torque rolls.

Kirby Chambliss at Oshkosh (right on take off):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET1WxgCkpuk

Now, I'm not saying the video in question is real and I don't think it is, but a full scale CAN hang on the prop.  Maybe not be able to climb, but neither did the aircraft that lost the wing.  Full scales can sustain level knife edge flight, too, as seen at the end of the "lost wing" video.
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