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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2009, 12:01:14 PM »
Oh, dear! I'm sure all the fashionable Marxists are having huge tummy hurtums over this.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2009, 12:08:21 PM »
Oh, dear! I'm sure all the fashionable Marxists northeastern/squish conservatives are having huge tummy hurtums over this.

Cue howls by David Frum and David Brooks...
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2009, 11:35:12 PM »
Northeastern conservatives are why we can't have nice things.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2009, 09:53:57 AM »
Northeastern conservatives... hmmmm.... let me turn that over in my mind a bit...

Nope.  It don't make no sense.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2009, 01:26:23 PM »
Northeastern conservatives Liberal Republicans are why we can't have nice things.

Maybe this will make more sense.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2009, 02:24:30 PM »
I forgot to put "scare quotes" around "conservatives" in my first post.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2009, 04:37:14 AM »
I pre-ordered mine two weeks ago. I hope she makes a million bucks. Good for her.

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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 04:39:43 AM »
I pre-ordered mine two weeks ago. I hope she makes a million bucks. Good for her.

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I'd rather she moved on to make $400,000 per year. =D
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2009, 11:49:32 AM »
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I'd rather she moved on to make $400,000 per year.

I'd be interested to see her second time on the campaign trail. My fear is that by 2010 the media will have successfully Qualye-ized her.

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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2009, 11:50:37 AM »
I'd be interested to see her second time on the campaign trail. My fear is that by 2010 the media will have successfully Qualye-ized her.

They already have marginialzied her. 
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2009, 12:05:04 PM »
I'd be interested to see her second time on the campaign trail. My fear is that by 2010 the media will have successfully Qualye-ized her.

Well, I'm not exactly sure about her qualifications either. And I've still got concerns/questions about her bowing out as the governor of Alaska.

My gut instinct and general assesment of human nature makes me think that she bowed out more to cash in and do the book/punditry/speaking route than to "save Alaska the trouble of all the malicious ethics investigations" etc.

My take on the "Palin Effect" is that it's more of a symptom of how absolutely hungry people are for another "great communicator", Obama himself is another symptom of it. I wish Fred Thompson had gubanatorial/executive branch bonafides.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2009, 12:28:25 PM »
Well, I'm not exactly sure about her qualifications either.
Well, she's no community organizer with a stint as an ACORN attorney, that's for sure.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2009, 12:46:54 PM »
Well, she's no community organizer with a stint as an ACORN attorney, that's for sure.

Did you just do a "but but but obama!" comeback?  Is it not reasonable to think both of them are lightweights?

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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2009, 01:20:16 PM »
I have my doubts for her being ready for the job of potus myself but she's a much better option than I've seen (with the exception of Duncan Hunter imo) in a while. She's no great communicator either. Maybe the speaking and book tours will help with that.

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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2009, 03:28:44 PM »
I would have thought being Governor of a State was a pretty good qualification for being President.  It is better than being Senator for 2 years or 30.  

What other "qualifications" would you be looking for?  What qualifications did say Ronald Reagan have?  Very few Presidents have had foreign policy experience.  Most Presidents have been former governors.


IMO, I think far too many conservatives got caught up in all the anti-Palin hype drummed up by the media.  IMO, being a governor is a better qualification than anything Hillary or Obama brought to the table.  I wouldn't call myself a Palin fanboy, but some of the misgivings about her IMO are misplaced.  
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2009, 03:58:45 PM »
I agree that the mainstream media's concern over Palin's "qualifications" are a smokescreen. And she indeed would have been better than Obama, of that I have no doubt.

However, her resignation as governor does give me pause. I think it does call her determination into question. I think that's a huge thing. It's like saying a Naval officer was "qualified" to captain his ship, but he resigned mid tour, so now he's going to ask for an even bigger command?

Someone who's a good policy wonk like a Bobby Jindal, with Palin's folksy charm, and Fred Thompson's delivery and air of gravitas is what the GOP needs. We've got our Carter in office now. We need our Reagan on deck, badly...
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2009, 04:00:51 PM »
What policy-wonkism is Jindal particularly known for? Educate me, please.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2009, 04:09:10 PM »
I agree that the mainstream media's concern over Palin's "qualifications" are a smokescreen. And she indeed would have been better than Obama, of that I have no doubt.

However, her resignation as governor does give me pause. I think it does call her determination into question. I think that's a huge thing. It's like saying a Naval officer was "qualified" to captain his ship, but he resigned mid tour, so now he's going to ask for an even bigger command?

Someone who's a good policy wonk like a Bobby Jindal, with Palin's folksy charm, and Fred Thompson's delivery and air of gravitas is what the GOP needs. We've got our Carter in office now. We need our Reagan on deck, badly...

For me, the import of her resignation is undetermined- it could signify good or ill.

First of all, I think she was thrust into the national spotlight prematurely. I would much rather she have completed her governorship first.

However, since then, she has been enemy number 1 of the left. She has been under constant attack that has not only cost her state, it has also cost her family and their personal wealth. (The left aren't satisfied with defeating you, they want to DESTROY their political opponents, including personal life and finances.)

As a result, though I would prefer she have finished as governor, she at once prevented the left from filing frivilous claims against her and afforded herself a means to recoup the losses they have imposed (and, hopefully, then some).

It could also have been purely for personal gain. I tend to lean towards the former explanation, though.

Is she the perfect candidate? Not at all.
Would I prefer she have more experience? Most definitely.
Is she one of the better options? Undoubtedly (as you mentioned, Jindal is another good option).
Does she absolutely infuriate and frighten the left? Here's a BIG yes. For that reason, I am of the opinion she is a good choice for president.
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2009, 04:45:36 PM »
IIRC, the primary reason she resigned was that the frivolous lawsuits ruined her & her family.

If she would have kept on as Gov, she would have been millions of dollars in legal debt, likely more than $10million.

That might not be a big deal to the Teddy Kennedys of the world, but if you didn't inherit hundreds of millions of dollars, a debt of $10million with nothing good to show of it (business, land, something) is daunting. 
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2009, 05:15:17 PM »
My gut instinct and general assesment of human nature makes me think that she bowed out more to cash in and do the book/punditry/speaking route than to "save Alaska the trouble of all the malicious ethics investigations" etc.

I hope that's why she resigned.  We need her out rallying the troops around the country, not herding moose in Alaska.  Maybe she's not destined for high national office, but she can do a lot of good for the movement, nationally. 
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2009, 05:24:47 PM »
If she didn't have a chance of going the distance in 2012, the Democrats, media and certain Republicans wouldn't be working so hard at taking her down. I can't think of another potential candidate, Democrat or Republican, from the last two years who continues to be under attack.

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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2009, 05:58:40 PM »
If she didn't have a chance of going the distance in 2012, the Democrats, media and certain Republicans wouldn't be working so hard at taking her down. I can't think of another potential candidate, Democrat or Republican, from the last two years who continues to be under attack.

Well, I know an Ohioan who is still grinding an axe against Ron Paul...
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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2009, 06:31:09 PM »
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Someone who's a good policy wonk like a Bobby Jindal, with Palin's folksy charm, and Fred Thompson's delivery and air of gravitas is what the GOP needs. We've got our Carter in office now. We need our Reagan on deck, badly...

True.  But We haven't seen him or her yet, and I don't think we'll see them in 2012 either.  The Republican party needs to decide what who it is and what it wants.  The economic and civil freedoms brought to us by previous Republican administrations are starting to clash with an increasingly theocratic agenda.  I'm almost old enough to remember when "intellectual" wasn't a dirty word.

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Re: Number One with a Bullet: Palin's book
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2009, 06:42:55 PM »
  The economic and civil freedoms brought to us by previous Republican administrations are starting to clash with an increasingly theocratic agenda. 


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