Author Topic: Donald Jr. in Big Trouble (Read 6886 times)

Hawkmoon · « **on:** July 10, 2017, 08:44:56 PM »

According to the New York Times, he committed treason by getting suckered into a meeting with a Russian attorney.

Really?

Treason?

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/no-trump-jr-almost-certainly-didnt-commit-a-crime-by-trying-to-get-clinton-dirt-from-russian-lawyer/

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2017, 09:03:43 PM »

IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP JR!!!

De Selby · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2017, 09:15:07 PM »

Let me get this straight: he was looking into allegations that Hillary was funded by the Russians, so he committed treason.

What about the DNC operatives who met with intelligence sources to look into the trump/Russia thing???

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2017, 09:22:10 PM »

Quote from: De Selby on July 10, 2017, 09:15:07 PM

What about the DNC operatives who met with intelligence sources to look into the trump/Russia thing???

Patriotic American heroes, doing their solemn duty to rescue the nation from the clutches of a megalomaniacal charlatan whose primary objective is to sell us out to the Roooshans.

HankB · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2017, 09:50:50 PM »

In my work for a large, highly diversified multinational tech company, I've traveled OUS on business, and often phone and teleconferenced with persons overseas, as well as foreign nationals here in the USA.

I wouldn't be able to accurately report all of these interactions as I don't have detailed logs of all of these meetings, so I suppose I better not accept a job with fed.gov.

dogmush · « **Reply #5 on:** July 11, 2017, 05:12:57 AM »

Quote from: HankB on July 10, 2017, 09:50:50 PM

In my work for a large, highly diversified multinational tech company, I've traveled OUS on business, and often phone and teleconferenced with persons overseas, as well as foreign nationals here in the USA.

I wouldn't be able to accurately report all of these interactions as I don't have detailed logs of all of these meetings, so I suppose I better not accept a job with fed.gov.

Well, not with a Republican gov anyway.

230RN · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2017, 06:49:39 AM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on July 10, 2017, 08:44:56 PM

According to the New York Times, he committed treason by getting suckered into a meeting with a Russian attorney.

Really?

Treason?

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/no-trump-jr-almost-certainly-didnt-commit-a-crime-by-trying-to-get-clinton-dirt-from-russian-lawyer/

Ring bell, dogs salivate.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2017, 09:49:04 AM »

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-lawyer-who-met-trump-jr-i-didn-t-have-n781631

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-candidacy.html

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In my view, this is much ado about nothing.

I think that sums it up.

makattak · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2017, 10:43:06 AM »

I think this is the textbook definition of "grasping at straws".

makattak · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2017, 01:49:14 PM »

Seems the NYT somehow got access to Mr. Trump, Jr.'s emails.

... I thought hacked emails were illegitimate?

DittoHead · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2017, 04:10:16 PM »

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In the NBC interview, Veselnitskaya said that Trump Jr. asked her only one question during the meeting, which was “whether I had any financial records which might prove that the funds used to sponsor the DNC were coming from inappropriate sources.” Veselnitskaya said that she had no such records and that “it was never my intention to collect any financial records to that end.”

Assuming she's telling the truth, this is kind of bizarre to me. How did this meeting happen with the two parties having so completely different expectations as to what it was about?

AJ Dual · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2017, 05:12:33 PM »

Quote from: DittoHead on July 11, 2017, 04:10:16 PM

Assuming she's telling the truth, this is kind of bizarre to me. How did this meeting happen with the two parties having so completely different expectations as to what it was about?

1. Probably both sides had handlers and "Trump Jr's people" and her "Russian People" being vague and dancing around things back and forth. And as such they either told each other what they wanted to hear to ensure the meeting happened, or they heard what they wanted to hear etc.

2. The longer this crap goes on, the more and more I'm convinced the Trump team, probably Bannon's brainchild, is intentionally orchestrating ALL of this and the "leaks" to keep the MSM and more reactive elements of the American Left busy, and chasing their tails. Meanwhile, the MSM attention and pressure on his actual Executive policy of rolling back a bunch of Obama years stuff, and on the more wishy-washy RINO's in Congress as they try to wrangle out some kind of (grumble, it was supposed to be "repeal") "less bad" version of Obamacare has dropped by 95%.

Stuff like "covefe" literally translates into measurably fewer calls to Congressional offices screaming and crying about how "I'm going to die because I won't get my contraception for my prenatal transgender baby!" etc.

HankB · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2017, 08:01:37 PM »

Donald . . . Donald Jr . . . Ivanka . . . everyone is under suspicion.

I wonder if Barron Trump has a pen-pal in some other country . . . is anyone looking into this possibility?

Scout26 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2017, 08:08:52 PM »

Quote from: DittoHead on July 11, 2017, 04:10:16 PM

Assuming she's telling the truth, this is kind of bizarre to me. How did this meeting happen with the two parties having so completely different expectations as to what it was about?

Sounds like the third party was telling both sides what they wanted hear to make this meeting happen. Either way, it's more nothing of the Russian Nothingburger.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #14 on:** July 11, 2017, 08:50:47 PM »

Quote from: HankB on July 11, 2017, 08:01:37 PM

Donald . . . Donald Jr . . . Ivanka . . . everyone is under suspicion.

I wonder if Barron Trump has a pen-pal in some other country . . . is anyone looking into this possibility?

I heard he once wore a shirt made in Bangladesh.

BANGLADESH!!

just Warren · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2017, 09:22:39 PM »

I'm bitterly amused that the left/media is more outraged over Jr's. search for evidence of Hillary's crimes than they are over Hillary's crimes.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2017, 11:05:10 PM »

Quote from: Warren on July 11, 2017, 09:22:39 PM

I'm bitterly amused that the left/media is more outraged over Jr's. search for evidence of Hillary's crimes than they are over Hillary's crimes.

Or over the Democratic party's sometimes blatant efforts to interfere with the election process by registering illegal aliens (and dead people) and encouraging/assisting them to vote [Democratic].

Scout26 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2017, 12:58:49 AM »

Plus the entire rigging elections to get Hillary the nomination...

I once had a private meeting with a Russian (at least Soviet) member of their government. I was in Berlin in Summer of 1990, and met with a Soviet solider near the Potsdammer Platz to buy his fur hat and some of his Soviet uniform badges. I also had contact with Soviet soldiers on the Duty Train between Helmstadt and Berlin when they checked my paperwork and ID, and then I had to escort said Soviet soldiers as they went through my platoon's car. We did not speak. I will confess to going through Checkpoint Charlie 4 times, although I had no contact with the East Germans. Same with the 56 days we did Border Duty.

Therefore, it is obvious that I have committed treason by the standards as set by the NYT, and am disqualified from holding any public office, to include dog catcher. I throw myself upon the mercy of the media...Perhaps DJTJr and I can share a prison cell.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2017, 02:50:59 AM »

I thought treasoners were shot at dawn. Maybe you and Donald Jr. can share a bullet?

Or maybe the New York Times should just be put out of its misery. It seems to be a classic example of a once mighty newspaper desperately seeking relevance in a world it does not understand.

230RN · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2017, 06:38:41 AM »

AJ Dual stated,

"The longer this crap goes on, the more and more I'm convinced the Trump team, probably Bannon's brainchild, is intentionally orchestrating ALL of this and the "leaks" to keep the MSM and more reactive elements of the American Left busy, and chasing their tails."

Yep.

Bell rings, dog salivates.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2017, 07:17:33 AM »

Quote from: 230RN on July 12, 2017, 06:38:41 AM

AJ Dual stated,

"The longer this crap goes on, the more and more I'm convinced the Trump team, probably Bannon's brainchild, is intentionally orchestrating ALL of this and the "leaks" to keep the MSM and more reactive elements of the American Left busy, and chasing their tails."

Yep.

Bell rings, dog salivates.

Could be right. Certainly if Trump just perseveres through all this, Republicans in general should never believe the media again. I think President Trump already showed the media only has power if they knuckle under to the pressure. We will see if other Republicans figure that out.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2017, 08:07:41 AM »

The way the media is crapping all over themselves about this you'd think Jr. sold uranium to the Russians for personal profit while serving as Secretary of State.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2017, 09:39:46 AM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 12, 2017, 08:07:41 AM

The way the media is crapping all over themselves about this you'd think Jr. sold uranium to the Russians for personal profit while serving as Secretary of State.

Surely nobody would ever do something like THAT!

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2017, 10:33:18 AM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on July 12, 2017, 02:50:59 AM

Or maybe the New York Times should just be put out of its misery. It seems to be a classic example of a once mighty newspaper desperately seeking relevance in a world it does not understand.

It may be happening sooner than I thought:

http://nypost.com/2017/07/11/death-panels-to-break-pink-slip-news-to-dozens-of-ny-times-copy-editors/

Firethorn · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2017, 02:39:56 PM »

Was listening to them talking about this on NPR.

They were talking about how what Donald Jr. did was illegal, but all the rules they talked about seemed to reference financial aid, not informational aid. Plus, somebody in Hillary's campaign did much the same with some other country.

Oh, and they had a talking head who said that if the Russians had approached her, when she was working for the Clinton campaign, that she'd have totally gone to the FBI over it.

News:

Author Topic: Donald Jr. in Big Trouble (Read 6886 times)