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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Balog on November 11, 2013, 03:22:38 PM
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http://borepatch.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-democratic-partys-2014-implosion.html
Not sure I buy it. And even if it comes to pass, I'm very doubtful that having a R majority in both houses would be a good thing. Especially if an R wins in 2016.
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Dear sweet fluffy Vishnu, no GOP majority in Congress and POTUS! They've already demonstrated they don't want to repeal socialized medicine, they just want to rename it after themselves rather than Obama. They'll add more Patriot Acts and start more wars, and keep spending high.
[Goes back to work on an asteroid magnet to install in DC during SOTU]
If there must be 546 idiots telling me how to live my life, at least keep them so busy fighting each other that they don't have time to gang up and come after me. ;/
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Woefully underestimates the ignorance, apathy, and gullibility of the majority of the electorate who put us here in the first place. Also, agree the (R) control is no panacea.
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^^^ agree.
The republicans aren't our friends. In my opinion: infighting is the best we can hope for at this point, before the debt monkey finally catch up with us.
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^^^ agree.
The republicans aren't our friends. In my opinion: infighting is the best we can hope for at this point, before the debt monkey finally catch up with us.
Full on socialistic fervor will bring that debt monkey to bear a lot faster though!
I think the TEA party is a little too little too late. A quick decline and the opportunity to rebuild afterwards is the best that can be hoped for, and that prospect is pretty bleak at best.
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http://borepatch.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-democratic-partys-2014-implosion.html
Not sure I buy it. And even if it comes to pass, I'm very doubtful that having a R majority in both houses would be a good thing. Especially if an R wins in 2016.
R.s always disappoint when in power. And I'd rather someone else slightly more deserving take the blame when the crash comes.
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If we get to the elections. At the rate the Middle East is imploding, I expect an hot nuclear war within a year. Talk about a wild card.
Israel is about out of options. They cannot absorb a first strike, they cannot count on US support, and they face an existential threat.
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I agree that current Republicans aren't our friends. On the D side you have Obamacare, on the R side you have "safety at all costs" Patriot Acts.
Unless we get a whole bunch of Rand Paul clones elected, I'm for split majorities and letting them deadlock on stuff. Doing nothing is the best we can hope for with these bozos.
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Disagree on the "hot war" in the Middle East.
I think the Iran situation is far overblown in the media, and it's an agitprop tool for defense spending here in the US.
There was just recently an article I read on how Pakistan is getting ready to start selling nukes to Saudi Arabia. Sounds like the Saudis are getting ready to take care of their own national defense rather than rely on us, and they're banking on MAD to protect them along with conventional forces.
Our poor relations with Iran date back to Nixon's petrodollar negotiations with Saudi Arabia, and Iran not being included or going along with that system. If the petrodollar negotiations are "nixed" then the reason for negative relations with Iran are basically flushed down the toilet. The whole nukular Iran thing is a load of hogwash, IMO. It's been a media bugbear that gets pranced out once a year, with Iran being "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon every year for the last decade or more. That boy has cried wolf too many times.
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Disagree on the "hot war" in the Middle East.
I think the Iran situation is far overblown in the media, and it's an agitprop tool for defense spending here in the US.
There was just recently an article I read on how Pakistan is getting ready to start selling nukes to Saudi Arabia. Sounds like the Saudis are getting ready to take care of their own national defense rather than rely on us, and they're banking on MAD to protect them along with conventional forces.
Our poor relations with Iran date back to Nixon's petrodollar negotiations with Saudi Arabia, and Iran not being included or going along with that system. If the petrodollar negotiations are "nixed" then the reason for negative relations with Iran are basically flushed down the toilet. The whole nukular Iran thing is a load of hogwash, IMO. It's been a media bugbear that gets pranced out once a year, with Iran being "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon every year for the last decade or more. That boy has cried wolf too many times.
The Iranian program is definitely “real”, and I do believe the timeline to a deployable bomb is indeed “soon”. Reliable Paki/Indian-grade devices that can be put on re-worked Chinese and Russian IRBM tech, probably a few more years. (Like what the Saudi’s are cashing in on now with the Pakistanis.)
However, I too think the end-game is MAD. Iran essentially wants MAD to immunize them from any serious repercussions from their M.O. of engaging in constant Shia vs. Sunni/Wahabi, Shia vs. Jew, and Shia vs. West low grade proxy-warfare indefinitely.
Besides it playing into their ideological desires, they need to keep poking everyone with Hezbollah and other client militant groups of theirs for their internal stability. At home, the “revolution” is increasingly unpopular, and by maintaining a constant state of external crisis, now hopefully limited from going “full rodeo” by MAD, dissent is perpetually painted as being that much more treasonous.
Ultimately, it's the Islamic version of the Orwellian: "WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA THE ZIONISTS."
I suppose there is the rather real chance of missteps, and things escalating out of anyone’s control, but for what it’s worth, I don’t think that’s Iran’s actual intent.
Putting on my really mean cynical bastard hat for a moment, and assuming we can stay mostly out of it, if there is to be another nuclear war in human history, better it be regional than global, and better it be "them" than "us".
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Current entrenched "R's" would rather see a D win than an <expletive> tea party type who's too concerned with fiscal responsibility, limited government, and the Constitution. So I expect to see a concerted effort by the GOP patrician class to protect their perceived entitlement to elected office by actively working to subvert any genuine conservative candidates.
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Unless we get a whole bunch of Rand Paul clones elected, I'm for split majorities and letting them deadlock on stuff. Doing nothing is the best we can hope for with these bozos.
Quoted for truth.
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Besides it playing into their ideological desires, they need to keep poking everyone with Hezbollah and other client militant groups of theirs for their internal stability. At home, the “revolution” is increasingly unpopular, and by maintaining a constant state of external crisis, now hopefully limited from going “full rodeo” by MAD, dissent is perpetually painted as being that much more treasonous.
Ultimately, it's the Islamic version of the Orwellian: "WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA THE ZIONISTS."
Exactly the same as our government is doing domestically in regards to Iran.
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Prior to WWII a whole bunch of really smart people read Uncle Adolf's book and scoffed at the screwball ideas contained therein.
Later one Barak Obama penned a ode to his dear departed Marxist father, and while everyone was busy fawning over him, not many actually read his book which described his political philosophy.
Meanwhile, in Iran you have a bunch of true believers that think that if they blast Israel off the map and push the Zionists into the sea that they will restore the Caliphate and resume the march of Islam across the world.
But everyone thinks that all they really want is MAD and some bushwah about petrodollars. So you all can keep whistling past the graveyard, because the butcher's bill for the upcoming failure to contain and stop Iran's nuclear program will be like nothing ever seen.
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Be not alarmed. President Christie will save us all.
[barf]
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Prior to WWII a whole bunch of really smart people read Uncle Adolf's book and scoffed at the screwball ideas contained therein.
Later one Barak Obama penned a ode to his dear departed Marxist father, and while everyone was busy fawning over him, not many actually read his book which described his political philosophy.
Meanwhile, in Iran you have a bunch of true believers that think that if they blast Israel off the map and push the Zionists into the sea that they will restore the Caliphate and resume the march of Islam across the world.
But everyone thinks that all they really want is MAD and some bushwah about petrodollars. So you all can keep whistling past the graveyard, because the butcher's bill for the upcoming failure to contain and stop Iran's nuclear program will be like nothing ever seen.
Yep. Throughout the past century, at least, we have a history of not believing what people say because "they couldn't be that crazy, it's just political posturing."
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Be not alarmed. President Christie will save us all.
[barf]
Not until January 21, 2017
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"A Government small enought that it can be flushed down the toilette"...
Don't recall where I read that, but it sounds good.
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"A Government small enought that it can be flushed down the toilette"...
Don't recall where I read that, but it sounds good.
And that gives me a mental picture of one too big to go down, and you have to use the plunger. And weren't we just talking about airborne fecal particles?
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"A Government small enought that it can be flushed down the toilette"...
Don't recall where I read that, but it sounds good.
"I'm not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."
-Grover Norquist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist
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I'm in favor of the GOP losing until they figure out that moving left won't get them elected.
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Be not alarmed. President Christie will save us all.
[barf]
If Christie is the GOP nominee, he'll be the last GOP nominee. Entire states will pull out of the party at that point.
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I'm in favor of the GOP losing until they figure out that moving left won't get them elected.
Yep.
If Christie is the GOP nominee, he'll be the last GOP nominee. Entire states will pull out of the party at that point.
No objectively worse than Romney, and we know what happened there.
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No objectively worse than Romney, and we know what happened there.
Romney was far too conservative on immigration, obviously.
The GOP should just get it over with and nominate the Democrat runner-up. :lol:
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Hell, you can't really address what's wrong with the GOP without touching on primaries. No point in even showing up if the enemy gets to nominate your candidates.
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Hell, you can't really address what's wrong with the GOP without touching on primaries. No point in even showing up if the enemy gets to nominate your candidates.
We in SC are facing precisely that situation. Lindsey Graham has real problems at the state level. He is simply out of step with Bubba and his Main Squeeze. Problem is he has $7 million is his war chest and can call on minimum $3 million from progressive enablers. His strategy appears to be to use SC's open primary system to import democrats and progressives into the republican primary in order to win the primary. He would then be able to steamroll whatever unfortunate soul democrats throw in his path. Republicans fielded a number of constitutional oriented candidate which will pay off in the future but not now. In my humble opinion Graham is headed for re-election unless Trey Gowdy announces. Something I'm told will not happen since he has a visceral hatred for all things DC. . . . . . just exactly what we need.
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We in SC are facing precisely that situation. Lindsey Graham has real problems at the state level. He is simply out of step with Bubba and his Main Squeeze. Problem is he has $7 million is his war chest and can call on minimum $3 million from progressive enablers. His strategy appears to be to use SC's open primary system to import democrats and progressives into the republican primary in order to win the primary. He would then be able to steamroll whatever unfortunate soul democrats throw in his path. Republicans fielded a number of constitutional oriented candidate which will pay off in the future but not now. In my humble opinion Graham is headed for re-election unless Trey Gowdy announces. Something I'm told will not happen since he has a visceral hatred for all things DC. . . . . . just exactly what we need.
You have my sympathy. I can count on my senator to suck, because he's a dem. You're stuck with that ahole. Hope Gowdy goes for it.
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It could always be worse. I have Durbin and Kirk as my Senators. I can't think of a more reliable D vote then Mark Kirk.
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It could always be worse. I have Durbin and Kirk as my Senators. I can't think of a more reliable D vote then Mark Kirk.
Really? Do I HAVE to bring out the big guns? I'm pretty sure APS CA wins this one. :P
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Really? Do I HAVE to bring out the big guns? I'm pretty sure APS CA wins losesthis one. :P
Teeny clarification.
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Teeny clarification.
Sadly true.
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We're Number 2! We're Number 2!
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Dear sweet fluffy Vishnu, no GOP majority in Congress and POTUS! They've already demonstrated they don't want to repeal socialized medicine, they just want to rename it after themselves rather than Obama. They'll add more Patriot Acts and start more wars, and keep spending high.
[Goes back to work on an asteroid magnet to install in DC during SOTU]
If there must be 546 idiots telling me how to live my life, at least keep them so busy fighting each other that they don't have time to gang up and come after me. ;/
"It is too bad they both can't lose."
----Henry Kissinger on the Iran/Iraq War.
Apt for other situations.
The optimist in me thinks, "If the GOP manages to win House & Senate & POTUS, the right POTUS could lead a roll-back of big gov't to a more manageable size." The realist in me thinks, "The best we can hope for is gridlock. The more the MSM uses the term 'ungovernable,' the better for us all."
In happier news, the Australian election was a referendum on who could more effectively stop mass immigration from the third world into Australia. And nationalist parties are winning bigger across lots of Europe. Euope/Anglosphere seems to be having a "I'm not dead yet" moment.
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Really? Do I HAVE to bring out the big guns? I'm pretty sure APS CA wins this one. :P
I miss the temperate climate...
That said, I don't want California to fall into the ocean, just selected urban areas.
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I miss the temperate climate...
That said, I don't want California to fall into the ocean, just selected urban areas.
If only there was a bomb with a patchouli specific targeting system...
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If only there was a bomb with a patchouli specific targeting system...
All I got is... :rofl: :rofl:
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Really? Do I HAVE to bring out the big guns? I'm pretty sure APS CA wins this one. :P
Actually, we all lose. =|
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Actually, we all lose. =|
And sadly, these days, I don't know that we'd be better off with Republicans. Especially any that could win here.
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And sadly, these days, I don't know that we'd be better off with Republicans. Especially any that could win here.
That's where I'm at.
Being the opposition isn't enough. Those bastards are proven to be untrustworthy.
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That's where I'm at.
Being the opposition isn't enough. Those bastards are proven to be untrustworthy.
Utterly.
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Utterly.
QFT