is it true?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

read  and can't find now a fb post that said nc had ober 500 democrats registered over 110 yeaRS old  and that 400 voted absentee. what are the odds

[brimic]

Well they live that long because of Obamacare. Dintcha know that?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

http://www.examiner.com/article/north-carolina-registers-over-583-democrat-votes-over-the-age-of-112

[Jamisjockey]

Totally trolling a very very liberal person I went to HS with on FB with that.  He's one of those that believes that Voter ID is really about supressing the black vote.

[drewtam]

Some democrat oriented sites are all over a rumor that Ohio voting machines are invested by a company with ties to the Romney family.

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/23/romney_linked_voting_machine_company_to_count_votes_in_ohio/

The ties are so tenuous, they basically have nothing. But this is their best attempt to counter punch on the voter fraud issue.

[MillCreek]

Totally trolling a very very liberal person I went to HS with on FB with that.  He's one of those that believes that Voter ID is really about supressing the black vote.

I am still waiting for the data showing that Voter ID requirements will equally disenfranchise voters likely to vote Republican.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/29/121029fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all

Interesting how so many of the cases cited by the voter fraud activists don't seem to pan out as representing wide-spread voter impersonation fraud.  As long as the state makes free ID cards readily available that meet any voter ID requirements, I am good with it.  I have always thought that absentee ballots represent more of a risk in terms of voting security.

[ArfinGreebly]

Why do you all hate old people?

Haven't the elderly been through enough?

[kgbsquirrel]

Why do you all hate old people?

Haven't the elderly been through enough?

Yeah! Now shut up and give them your money, they earned it!

[Tallpine]

Totally trolling a very very liberal person I went to HS with on FB with that.  He's one of those that believes that Voter ID is really about supressing the black vote.

Voter ID is really about supressing the dead vote.

 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

the explanation i got and its somewhat plausible is that at one time dob wasn't required. then it was added. the records with no dob were given a 1900 default

[drewtam]

I am still waiting for the data showing that Voter ID requirements will equally disenfranchise voters likely to vote Republican.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/29/121029fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all

Interesting how so many of the cases cited by the voter fraud activists don't seem to pan out as representing wide-spread voter impersonation fraud.  As long as the state makes free ID cards readily available that meet any voter ID requirements, I am good with it.  I have always thought that absentee ballots represent more of a risk in terms of voting security.

Sorry, New Yorker is being intentional democrat hacks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/21/illinois-counties-have-mo_n_852141.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html

And these were just the first few results from google.

Voting fraud is as old as America. I suspect it is actually less a problem now a days except in deeply democrat and repub areas; but the nature of the problem is there is no way to be sure.

[MillCreek]

^^^ Both of those links don't show any actual voting fraud that would be prevented by voter ID requirements, so I am puzzled as to how this advances the arguments in favor of it. 

[drewtam]

^^^ Both of those links don't show any actual voting fraud that would be prevented by voter ID requirements, so I am puzzled as to how this advances the arguments in favor of it. 

If a state ID is required to cast a vote, then the excess "registered voters" won't be able to cast their non-existent votes. These excess reg voters are party operatives casting votes under false identities. Voter ID should put a dent in such activities, especially when combined with purging dead voters from the registries.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

^^^ Both of those links don't show any actual voting fraud that would be prevented by voter ID requirements, so I am puzzled as to how this advances the arguments in favor of it. 

because the backbone of the no id argument is that its a non problem  there is no fraud

[brimic]

because the backbone of the no id argument is that its a non problem  there is no fraud

Its the application of 'The Big Lie"- repeat a slogan over and over again until people absorb it and no longer question it, or in matters such as Voter ID, one just has to say "but there is no fraud..." in order to stop their opponents argument.

Its pretty incredible that people actually believe that tripe. Vote fraud has always been in our elections and is so ingrained in our society that we have terms for cities "where the dead vote." The fact that vote fraud almost always benefits a single party in our country is another reason why so many people are in denial over it.

[MillCreek]

Its the application of 'The Big Lie"- repeat a slogan over and over again until people absorb it and no longer question it, or in matters such as Voter ID, one just has to say "but there is no fraud..." in order to stop their opponents argument.

Fixed to point out how that goes both ways.