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oops! someones in trouble!
« on: April 27, 2009, 08:45:56 PM »
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=7439287&page=1


Air Force One Photo Op Triggers Panic in Manhattan
NYC Mayor Bloomberg Blasts Flyover as "Insensitive" and "Ill-Conceived;" White House Aplogizes
By MARK CRUDELE, RICHARD ESPOSITO and LISA STARK
April 27, 2009



New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is "furious" over a Department of Defense low-altitude flyover of NYC in the area around Ground Zero this morning, calling it "ill-conceived" and a "waste of taxpayers' money."
New Yorkers in lower Manhattan jolted by promotional Air Force One photo shoot.

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A photo shoot involving a 747 used as Air Force One and one fighter jet flying at low altitude led to hundreds of frightened calls from residents and workers in Lower Manhattan this morning, triggering memories of 9-11 as many evacuated their offices. The president was not aboard.

At a White House press briefing Monday afternoon, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs dodged questions about the flyover, even referring the media to the White House (that he represents).

Gibbs said he had no other information about the flyover other than news reports he had seen. "I was working on other things," Gibbs said. "You might be surprised to know I don't know every movement of Air Force One or what happens to it."
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Re: oops! someones in trouble!
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 09:08:17 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090427/pl_afp/usmilitaryaviationexerciseapology

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WASHINGTON (AFP) – The White House apologized Monday after one of Barack Obama's presidential planes flew alarmingly low over New York city, sending residents into a panic and triggering fears of a new 9/11.

"While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it's clear that the mission created confusion and disruption," said Louis Caldera, director of the White House military office.

"I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused," he said in a statement, adding that he approved the mission over New York -- described by other officials as a photo opportunity -- last week.

"I take responsibility for that decision," he added.

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 09:10:58 PM »
Wow, just.... Wow. This administration does the impossible: make Bush look like a diplomatic genius.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 10:24:00 PM »
When they said "Anybody but Bush," they really, really meant anybody but Bush. 

'Course I suppose this decision came from some level lower than the Oval Office. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2009, 10:34:02 PM »
I can't wait until some low-level guy in one of the PR companies that Hillary hired back in 2000 decides to get a conscience...
 
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Re: oops! someones in trouble!
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2009, 11:15:11 PM »
Hmm Obama flew low over my parents house a few months back and no one panicked......


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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2009, 11:38:30 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2009, 11:56:59 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 12:06:07 AM »
Wow.  Until I saw that, I had no idea how frightened people were by the whole snafu.  Nor did I realize how the fighter escort added to the effect.  Looked like he was getting ready to shoot it down. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 01:21:00 AM »
Wow.  Until I saw that, I had no idea how frightened people were by the whole snafu.  Nor did I realize how the fighter escort added to the effect.  Looked like he was getting ready to shoot it down. 

I guess, but anybody with half a brain would realize that that fighter is waaay to close for such a thing. Oh wait...
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 02:07:55 AM »
Hmm Obama flew low over my parents house a few months back and no one panicked......

How many terrorists have crashed planes into your parents neighborhood?
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 06:20:27 AM »
I don't know why he even needs Air Force One....couldn't he just descend from Heaven on a cloud like every other messiah?....  :angel:
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 06:23:54 AM »
Wow...I really can't believe someone thought that was a good idea.  From the ground, I bet it was hard to tell it was Air Force One.  I can understand the panic from the residents of NYC, this was VERY poorly planned.  They should have just photoshopped it. 

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2009, 07:26:11 AM »
I guess, but anybody with half a brain would realize that that fighter is waaay to close for such a thing.

Actually, no, most full-brained people would not realize that. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2009, 08:29:25 AM »
Actually, no, most full-brained people would not realize that. 

Too close for missiles, switching to guns ...
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2009, 08:35:22 AM »
I don't know why he even needs Air Force One....couldn't he just descend from Heaven on a cloud like every other messiah?....  :angel:


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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2009, 08:37:32 AM »
He's just gettin' yu'ns ready for the coup. :police: =D =D
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2009, 09:15:25 AM »
Actually, no, most full-brained people would not realize that. 

This one didn't.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2009, 10:05:00 AM »
Too close for missiles, switching to guns ...

I have no flying experience, but I would think that lighting off air-to-air missiles in/over urban areas would be a bit more risky than using the plane's guns.  Also, assuming a novice pilot of the airliner, using guns and targetting the cockpit might be more effective in immediately downing the aircraft than a heat-seeking missile to one of several engines.
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2009, 11:00:55 AM »
Too bad the VC-25 wasn't popping flares during the flyby. 
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2009, 11:05:12 AM »
Anyone else catch this?

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At a White House press briefing Monday afternoon, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs dodged questions about the flyover, even referring the media to the White House (that he represents).

That's a whole new level of  ;/ and  :lol: right there.
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2009, 11:11:55 AM »
I gather the whole $taged photo op will now be $crapped as its poisoned imagery
I wonder what project they were going to use the imagery for?
The Whitehouse 2009 Christmas card?

If i was rolling AF1 with fighter escorts around Manhatten, I would have a REDOne camera on the chase craft

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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2009, 11:14:58 AM »
One of the blogs I frequent had an apt quote about this. I added it as my sig line.

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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2009, 11:42:57 AM »
They should have just photoshopped it. 

Whilst I agree, I can imagine the thread that would result:

Air Force One over Manhatten - faked
I can tell by the pixels!
This is just typical of this administration
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2009, 11:48:29 AM »
Arrogant waste, fraud and abuse.  But at least they scared the sweet zombie jesus out of New York in the process. 
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Pulled up some links that say it costs $60,000 + an hour to operate AF1.  Figure an hour or so flight time from Andrews to New York, plus loiter time, plus flight back.  Plus time on the ground, maintenece, oh, and the Photography aircraft and the F16's (who knows how much an hour those cost), we're already over $150,000 just for the flight time of AF1.  All to scare the hell out of a bastion of liberal voting.  Nice.
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