consequences in georgia

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/may/31/farmers-tie-labor-woes/?local

shoot i like vidalia onions too

[AJ Dual]

Hmm. Seems to me that Georgia needs to institute a "workfare" reform to their welfare system.

I've always held that any strict enforcement of illegal immigration law and protection of our borders should be followed with forcing our own domestic underclass back into the labor market.

Also, every time a particular crop was thought to be "unharvestable" by anything but human hands, a machine came along sooner or later... 

[mtnbkr]

$12.50/hour?  That's not bad pay for unskilled labor.  I doubt they'll have any problems getting laborers.  You get two people in a household making that kind of money and you could live decently in the rural South.

Chris

[White Horseradish]

$12.50/hour?  That's not bad pay for unskilled labor.  I doubt they'll have any problems getting laborers.  You get two people in a household making that kind of money and you could live decently in the rural South.

Chris

I lived on less than that.

[Boomhauer]

$12.50/hour?  That's not bad pay for unskilled labor.  I doubt they'll have any problems getting laborers.  You get two people in a household making that kind of money and you could live decently in the rural South.

Chris

*expletive deleted*it, that's $5.25 per hour more than I make, that's good money.



 

[red headed stranger]

$12.50/hour?  That's not bad pay for unskilled labor.  I doubt they'll have any problems getting laborers.  You get two people in a household making that kind of money and you could live decently in the rural South.

Chris

Yep, and if they doubled that wage, Onions, Watermelon, and Corn would still be plenty affordable.  The idea that illegal labor is the only thing keeping us from unaffordable food is a ridiculous canard.   

[Monkeyleg]

My wife works at a sawmill. The semi truck drivers make $13, and they have CDL's and years of experience.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Charles Hall, executive director of the Georgia Fruit and Vegetable Growers Association, said he has been in close contact with Labor Commissioner Mark Butler and Agricultural Commissioner Gary Black about the shortage, calling it the most severe he has seen.

Hall said it’s possible state officials could hold job fairs to steer some of Georgia’s unemployed workers to these farm jobs, which pay $12.50 an hour on average. The state’s unemployment rate is now at 9.9 percent.

Farmers, however, say they often have little luck recruiting Georgia residents to work in their fields because it is temporary, hot and physically demanding. To recruit more workers, some farmers are offering signing bonuses, Hall said


to quote the kid (32) who no showed yesterday for work with me. "anyone would wanna get paid for doing nothing!" as his rationale for milking unemployment.  hes sadly representative of too many today

[mtnbkr]

I spent my summers in college working as a laborer for the County's Parks and Rec dept.  That was temporary, hot, and physically demanding work.  I made less than $8/hour and worked 40hrs a week with some weekend shifts.  When I lived in TN, a popular job for teens was helping farmers harvest hay.  Again, temporary, hot, and physically demanding.

If I could support my family, I'd gladly do that kind of work again today.  Once I left the field, my day would be over, unlike today.

Chris

[Jamisjockey]

to quote the kid (32) who no showed yesterday for work with me. "anyone would wanna get paid for doing nothing!" as his rationale for milking unemployment.  hes sadly representative of too many today

Herein lies the problem. We can't be serious about stopping the invasion when our own unskilled workers can eat and live for free. 

The jobs are there, we are giving them away to illegals and then subsidizing our own poor to vote.  Pathetic.

[HankB]

I've always held that any strict enforcement of illegal immigration law and protection of our borders should be followed with forcing our own domestic underclass back into the labor market.

Public assistance of ANY sort should be contingent on being available for work - even if it's day labor, able bodied welfare/food stamp/etc. recipients should be required to report to a work center for 8 hrs a day, and go out on any job that comes up, with only genuine disability or old age being an excuse. (Being drunk, too fat, a druggie, or just plain lazy is NOT a genuine disability. And a disability seldom precludes ALL types of work.)

[Boomhauer]

to quote the kid (32) who no showed yesterday for work with me. "anyone would wanna get paid for doing nothing!" as his rationale for milking unemployment.  hes sadly representative of too many today

My own goddamn sister is dating a *expletive deleted*ing loser like that. Not worked in 5 months now. She's constantly driving him around and such (he blew his money on a "hot rod"...i.e., a shitty '80s Pontiac Trans Am), paying for his meals when they eat out...he just sits on his ass at home, doing not a damn thing except play video games all day long...he was working at Dollar General, was offered assistent manager, turned it down. Offered a job at UPS, turned it down. Offered jobs elsewhere...too damn lazy to take them. He won't even come down to our house to visit because he's afraid Dad will put him to work if he does.

My idiot sister is talking about marrying him.

[roo_ster]

$12.50/hour?  That's not bad pay for unskilled labor.  I doubt they'll have any problems getting laborers.  You get two people in a household making that kind of money and you could live decently in the rural South.

I made less than that in inflation-adjusted dollars in the late 1990s during summer breaks for high school & college working much more dangerous jobs.   

Yep, and if they doubled that wage, Onions, Watermelon, and Corn would still be plenty affordable.  The idea that illegal labor is the only thing keeping us from unaffordable food is a ridiculous canard.   

Yep.  The seasonal labor portion of the retail price is danged small.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i'm afraid to see the kid that no showed for fear i'll break his face.  his wife is coming over tomorrow to work off the cash i gave him for his sons birthday party

[KD5NRH]

i'm afraid to see the kid that no showed for fear i'll break his face.  his wife is coming over tomorrow to work off the cash i gave him for his sons birthday party

If it's even remotely a "real job,"  (i.e. not just cash under the table) make sure to report it to the unemployment folks.  Turning down paying work without a really good excuse is one of the few ways to lose unemployment in some places.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

its cash and he wore out his unemployment months ago.

[roo_ster]

its cash and he wore out his unemployment months ago.

If it were me in that situation, I'd risk an *expletive deleted*ss-whoopin' to make some cash.  Maybe even pay back folks I owe. 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

thats because you are a man  junior is not so encumbered i would have given up a long time ago except for his kids and his wife who has terrible taste in men but i've known since she was 5

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

he was hired for an electricians job that woulda paid 6 figures had to miss out because no drivers  license.  from not paying a 75 dollar fine then getting caught driving on suspended.  hes also on one of the new "dope substitute" drugs.  a real waste of money and time they are

[KD5NRH]

his wife who has terrible taste in men but i've known since she was 5

That should have been a hint.   

[Azrael256]

pay $12.50 an hour on average

TWELVE-FIFTY AN HOUR?!?!?!  Seriously?!?!

I could've put myself through college on that!

You guys are seriously telling me that I could've been making that kind of money with a decent work ethic and the ability to dig holes?  I turned about six bucks an hour back then!

Somebody please go back to 2003 and tell past me that.

[KD5NRH]

You guys are seriously telling me that I could've been making that kind of money with a decent work ethic and the ability to dig holes?  I turned about six bucks an hour back then!

One of the best hourly jobs in town for a non-college-grad starts at $11.60/hr.  A lot of skilled labor here is in the $9.25-11.25 range.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

and yet there is a shortage of round eye high sunblock number workers.   you figure it out  in a state with 9 percent unemployment

[MechAg94]

One of the best hourly jobs in town for a non-college-grad starts at $11.60/hr.  A lot of skilled labor here is in the $9.25-11.25 range.

That may be still higher than the average rate in my home town.  I used to make $3.35/hr when I was in high school.  Anything approaching 6 or 8 bucks would have been great.  Even better if it was not all year.  It would give me an excuse to not do it ALL the time.

I used to work with an instrument technician that said when he was younger, he and friends would work turnarounds at the chemical plants around here 7 days a week/12 hours a day for 3 or 4 months then go run around the country doing sailing competitions.  He said he could work the Spring and afford to take off all summer.  Now days, people don't even want to work temporary jobs.

[RaspberrySurprise]

$12.50/hour?  That's not bad pay for unskilled labor.  I doubt they'll have any problems getting laborers.  You get two people in a household making that kind of money and you could live decently in the rural South.

Chris

I make less than that as a minor supervisor at my job.