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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2011, 01:41:53 PM »
At this point, there is no real end to unemployment benefits

i know some folks who would disagree

http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/23/news/economy/extending_unemployment_benefits/
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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2011, 02:41:58 PM »
That 99 weeks is a joke.

I know multiple folks that have managed to collect unemployment for 3-5 years.  As far as I can see, if one is willing to jump through the required hoops, unemployment seems not to end.

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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2011, 02:51:40 PM »
how do they do it?  i know if you go back to work for a while you can go out again.  and i've heard of folks doing what you say,  but never seen it in real life.  and thats moving amongst a crowd of junkies and other scam artists
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2011, 03:10:29 PM »
99 weeks is almost two years. 

Should we be subsidizing illegal aliens welfare to work, and then paying people to be out of work for almost 2 *expletive deleted*ing years?  It boggles my mind.

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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2011, 03:18:20 PM »
i've been working 40 years  more than 40 hrs a week for 35 years.  so far never collected unemployment but i can see how some folks might have to.  i'm lucky i can do physical work.  some folks can't
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2011, 04:16:20 PM »
i've heard of folks doing what you say,  but never seen it in real life.  and thats moving amongst a crowd of junkies and other scam artists

I really don't think we have to put up with such insulting insults.  :mad:
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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2011, 04:26:09 PM »
lol  i was talking about away from here  my apologies if anyone here felt tarred. >:D
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2011, 05:17:39 PM »
i've been working 40 years  more than 40 hrs a week for 35 years.  so far never collected unemployment but i can see how some folks might have to.  i'm lucky i can do physical work.  some folks can't
But that ain't all there is out there.  I think 2 years is way too much.  Certainly way too much for the federal govt to be doling out. 
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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2011, 05:37:16 PM »
i agree  i've seen folks get the equivalent of "institutionalized". read "sorry"
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2011, 02:12:00 AM »
Wait, wait, wait.

The American Federal Government will feed an unemployed man - badly, I expect, but feed him - for 99 weeks?  A healthy man, we're talking about here? Not one who's missing both legs or suffering from a horrible disability?
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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2011, 09:31:25 AM »
Wait, wait, wait.

The American Federal Government will feed an unemployed man - badly, I expect, but feed him - for 99 weeks?  A healthy man, we're talking about here? Not one who's missing both legs or suffering from a horrible disability?

The actual mechanism that distributes the money is a state program, but they're all subsidized by the fed.gov, yes. We pull taxes from payroll to fund this.


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how do they do it?  i know if you go back to work for a while you can go out again.  and i've heard of folks doing what you say,  but never seen it in real life.  and thats moving amongst a crowd of junkies and other scam artists

I do not know, and talking to them about it brings a red haze to my vision, so I don't delve deeply into it.  I have to work with the spouses of most of the unemployment cheats I know.

I do know that the worst offender started receiving unemployment when she lost her job at Home Depot during her pregnancy, and is still receiving them today.  Her daughter is 5.  I have no idea what lies or scams she pulled to do this, but I sometimes wonder what her daughter is learning about honesty.

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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2011, 09:43:52 AM »
The actual mechanism that distributes the money is a state program, but they're all subsidized by the fed.gov, yes. We pull taxes from payroll to fund this.

This is, I suspect, a lot more generous than many 'socialist' nation's welfare programs.
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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2011, 10:03:18 AM »
lol  i was talking about away from here  my apologies if anyone here felt tarred. >:D

You're not to blame.  I often am tarred since I have a wife, two kids, a full time job, coach t-ball, am on the church's board of trustees, and a few other activities I am too tarred to recall at the moment.
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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2011, 10:04:49 AM »
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This is, I suspect, a lot more generous than many 'socialist' nation's welfare programs.

Could be, I don't really know the specific's of our unemployment system, although I read a lot of screed about Britain's youth being on the dole so I think theirs is pretty generous.

How's this for irony:

I work full time for the US DOD.  During this spring's build-up to a gov shut down, I contacted FL's unemployment office on a whim.  Just to see.  Sure enough, if I had been furloughed due to a shut down I would have qualified for unemployment.  I would have gotten (if I applied, which I wouldn't) 2/3rds of my salary while furloughed, and being temporary I would have even been exempt from the "looking for a job" requirements of actual unemployed people.  So the .gov would have shut down the military over the budget issues, but .gov handouts to lazy folks, nope they're safe and will continue. ;/

(cue someone claiming that unemployment benefits aren't a tax but rather insurance that you've payed for.)

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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2011, 10:08:40 AM »
If one is of average or better intelligence and willing to lie, one can stay on the unemployment/disability/gov't teat gravy train indefinitely.

A buddy of mine has a sister who went to a private university and double-majored in women's and victims' studies.  Learned the practical way to harness all the programs for her (ab)use.  SHe got out of school, worked as a caunselor at a youth home for two weeks, had a youth step on her foot, and has been on the gravy train for over 15 years.

She supplements her gov't teat monies by reselling stuff she finds at garage sales.

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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #65 on: June 25, 2011, 02:05:13 PM »
This is, I suspect, a lot more generous than many 'socialist' nation's welfare programs.

Don't buy the lies. America has been a socialist nation for damn near a hundred years.  There are several generations of people in certain areas who've never worked, and have lived off the government dole thier entire lives.
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Re: consequences in georgia
« Reply #66 on: June 26, 2011, 01:32:51 AM »
I would have gotten (if I applied, which I wouldn't) 2/3rds of my salary while furloughed, and being temporary I would have even been exempt from the "looking for a job" requirements of actual unemployed people.

When I was on unemployment, I was amazed at how easy it would have been to stay on it.  I had to spend a certain number of hours looking for work and make a certain number of job contacts each week, but I could easily have applied for jobs I wasn't qualified for, and/or shown up to interviews in my underwear with a beer in hand and still met their requirements.  I understand they've toughened it up a bit, but I still doubt that it would take much pondering to find a foolproof way to keep getting the benefits.